poison

You generally can't tell something is wrong until its to late.
They generally scatter baits from the air and away from public accessible areas but birds can carry them and drop them in other areas, so you just don't know for sure.

Better to keep your pooch on a lead and close at hand to reduce the risk of him possibly picking up a bait out bush.

Not a very nice way for your mate to die, take care of him.

i also carry some lectric soda crystals to make my dog sick up if need be . it could be a long way to a vet by then its too late ;i always have him on a lead out of the truck .it would be nice too be able to recognise this poison if it is around thanks again barry

Use a muzzle, the baits aren't labelled!

1080 (sodium monoflouroacetate) is usually a crystalline powder soluble in some liquids.
It is dissolved in dyed liquid and often injected into prepared meat cubes around 30mm square but this size changes as the meat dries out.
The dried bait looks a bit like a thickish piece of leather.
These are the baits dropped by air in WA and probably also in other states.

In WA the coloured 1080 liquid is also vacuum impregnated into oats and laid as a trail for rabbit control in agricultural areas. All stock is, of course, removed from the baited area before the trails are laid.

In WA most native species have an increased tolerance to 1080 due to the presence of native plants (mainly gastrolobium and oxylobium species ) so damage to other native animals and birds is minimal.

Hope this information helps.

Disco.
(who spent 20+ years using 1080 as part of his job.)

Hi Barry

Your dog will swallow the bait before you see it. As suggested above, a muzzle when bush walking, and keep the dog on the lead in a clear open area when camped. Baits can look like a square of jerky or like a sausage. Crows are great at distributing the baits to unexpected places. In the south west we now have to tether the bait on a wire trace, but not so in state forests or pastoral areas.

Motherhen

G,Day Barry,

Just back from a trip thru N/W West Australia where 1080 poisoning is of real concern for those of us travelling with our best friends. Our dog does not tolerate a muzzle at all well. We met some fellow travellers who had solved the problem by making a hood from fly nettingthat passed over the dogs head and was attached around the dog's collar.This stopped the dog from picking up any food and gave the dog insect protectionThe lady was very handy and had also incorporated a cloth cap on the top which helped lift the netting of the dog's eyes. Take care
john y

Barry,

Unless the baits have been aerially spread they should be buried. Parks Vic often create a small patch of sand so it's easy to see where the baits are located, and they can see from the footprints what sort of animal has taken the bait. Baits can sometimes have a bluish tinge to them, but it can be hard to see against the colour of the meat.

Would be best to check with your vet and see what sort of treatment you can carry with you.

When we had Dogs, they wore muzzles. They had to. They were always on a lead.
I agree with what has been said.
In our day it was strickening & the vet prepared us an antidote. to have on hand.
1080 came in when we were leaving the N.T. to move South.
We also owned a gun back then. To have to shoot your dog is far better than to see him or her die that way.
I know you can't have guns now. We don't have dogs now as we travel so much but I go into places which could well have baits & people watch their Dogs chewing on bones & things.
I spoke to a person once & although they loved their Dog, the reply was " Oh she's pretty good really"as she chewed on"
The tears just welled up in my eyes! I've heard of the Lectic crystals but don't know the dose rate. It is better to prevent it than try to cure it. It's usually to late Unless you catch them with it.
These fly veils sound great but I'd think they'd have to be more sturdy,Like very light gauze wire.
Take care, safe travels.
Bye for now Ma.

thanks too all replies regarding poison thread 90401 bye barry