Caravan Choices
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Scott M3
We have a camper trailer and want to upgrade to a caravan. We are thinking to go to a full-size van. Please advise your thoughts of the below... ensuite or not? combined ensuite or separate shower and
toilet? ensuite vs outdoor shower (with hot water system)? brand of choice? does anyone have a Creative Caravan (or one of their off-shoot brands)? Triple bunks or twin bunks? (We currently onlly have one
child and may or may not have another one). We have a Toyota Prado so are limited to 2500kg towing capacity. Thanks! I'll ask more questions if I think of them.
Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Dec 10, 2011 at 21:37
Saturday, Dec 10, 2011 at 21:37
Ensuite or not? How are you coping presently? One of the problems of having an ensuite is you will be reluctant to go back.
The closest I have been to ordering an ensuite was pricing a shower on the outside. We ended up deleting it for three reasons, $3k5, the space the water heater would have taken up and the loss of living space.
You say you are limited on the ATM you can tow. You will be able to shoehorn bunks plus a shower/dunny cubicle into a van of your dimensions but that will severely limit your lounging and dining space. We appreciate the excellent living space in our van and are prepared to erect a shower tent when necessary. The more space you allocate to your ablutions the more cramped you will be in your van.
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Reply By: Steven G1 - Saturday, Dec 10, 2011 at 21:46
Saturday, Dec 10, 2011 at 21:46
Hi Scott,
You need to ask yourself what best suits your family's needs in regards to ensuites, bunks etc. Are you prepared to take the
child/children to amenities blocks and so
forth. New verses old. You have asked a lot of variables and I'm sure you will get a lot of answers. But as I said it should all come down to what best suits your family,s needs.
Cheers and happy investigating
Steve
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Reply By: Member - Old Girl - Saturday, Dec 10, 2011 at 21:47
Saturday, Dec 10, 2011 at 21:47
Ensuite is the go with kids.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Saturday, Dec 10, 2011 at 23:38
Saturday, Dec 10, 2011 at 23:38
Hi Scott,
Depends on your budget and where you want to go. I have had a van, a camper trailer and now a full off-road cross-over camper. It has a full ensuite plus outdoor shower, beds for 4 (queen, bunk and table bed) but only has outside cooking. After having both inside and outside cooking, the outside with roll-out awning was a prerequisite when I got this van. But the ensuite was also another must-have for SWMBO and wouldn't be without it now.
Cheers
Captain
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 11, 2011 at 08:14
Sunday, Dec 11, 2011 at 08:14
Yes go for the full Ensuite.
The
Cook loves the ensuite and washing machine.
The extra money outlayed is
well worth it.
Cheers
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Reply By: Effie C (Ex NT now ACT) - Sunday, Dec 11, 2011 at 08:45
Sunday, Dec 11, 2011 at 08:45
Scott M3
We have just gone through this (
well over the last 7 months) we ended up ordering and taking delivery of a Coromal 20' van with external shower (we already had the shower tent from camper trailer). Our van is the P611 which has double bunks at one end and the main bedroom other end, with this configuration when the tin lid grows up and leaves us alone we will have the bunk area converted to an internal en suite as this is how Coromal do their en suite version (plus 6" in length). Oh we too have a Prado and was limited by weight off 2.5t but the Coromal fitted our requirements to a tee.
Good Luck
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Reply By: Member - John and Lynne - Sunday, Dec 11, 2011 at 08:55
Sunday, Dec 11, 2011 at 08:55
A lot depends on how you intend to use your van. If you will be mainly staying in
well set up caravan parks with decent amenities blocks then you don't really need to lose the living space an ensuite takes up. A bathroom also adds a lot of weight. A dirt road van with bathroom and bunks and a reasonable amount of storage and living space for 3 or 4 people would
test the limits of your vehicle.
If you plan to bushcamp or generally go to fairly rough campgrounds then it is a great benefit to have your own bathroom - especially for
young children who may freak at a drop
toilet and
toilets are likely to be far from your
camp site! Also you can
camp where there are no facilities without worrying about causing pollution problems and digging holes! This does mean carrying more water though and does add to weight. Solar panels for camping also add to weight.
We managed for years with a porta potti for nights and a shovel for day but there is now more and more requirement to be self contained and 'leave no traces'. Our new van has a full ensuite and, as said, we would not do wirhout it now. But it is a sturdy dirt roader set up for two people and the Tare is about 2,2000.
Enjoy your search. I am sure you will get many suggestions. This topic has been widely discussed on caravanersforum. Lynne
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Reply By: Geoff H (Q - Thursday, Dec 15, 2011 at 13:41
Thursday, Dec 15, 2011 at 13:41
It really depends what sort of camping you do, in saying that we do some beach and some
bush camping and our next van will have the ensuite because sometime we are a good distance from the amenities even in parks so it would be convenient to have facilities at hand, we don't live in our current camper van, but tend to sit outside so internal space is not a priority for us.
Good luck.
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Reply By: AlanTH - Thursday, Dec 15, 2011 at 19:48
Thursday, Dec 15, 2011 at 19:48
The
Cook and I have just done the same thing, camper to van, and asked ourselves the same questions.
We decided as we were going for a small van so we could still get into most of the
places we've been before, that no ensuite was the way to go. We've used a shower tent and Primus 12v shower for years and find this is by far the easiest way to control water usage.
Recently we met a
young couple who had the same van as we were buying and were using
well over a 100 litres of water in 3 days with an ensuite.
That's ridiculous and not sustainable if you want to keep away from so called civilisation!
Plus having a dump next to the table or bed is just not on. I don't fancy that with my bacon and eggs.
AlanTH.
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