Any info on small trucks- Isuzu NPR200/Hino 300 ?

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 18:16
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Hi
We are currently looking at upgrading to an aussie built 5th wheeler.
its one of the larger models so will need a reasonable sized tow vehicle.
Dont want to go the usa truck import route so have been looking at the smaller range of jap trucks.
I have a tinny and a motorbike to carry too !

Something like an Isuzu NPR 200 would allow me to have a box on the back for the bike and a rack up top for the tinny.

Having no truck experience at all I was wondering if anyone can point me to which would be the best allround buy, there is really only 3 choices, the Isuzu, Hino or Fuso (mitsubishi) looked at the Iveco Daily cab chassis and too expensive, and I would struggle for room for the bike.

I know cab over axle can be a bit uncomfortable but would get suspension seats etc. and being used to a Troopy it is not the most comfy vehicle on the road anyway.

Any info good or bad greatfully accepted.

Brian
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Reply By: Gobumpy - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 18:35

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 18:35
Brian
Mate I'd be going the Isuzu I have worked on all three you have mentioned and found the Isuzu to be the most user friendly in maintenance and ease of repair Isuzu almost felt if they were designed for the mechanic in mind. Parts are available aus wide and on par price wise between all three. Engines built strong have been designed off the larger engines just don't over heat one can cost lots to repair. If ya need more info please ask I may be able to assist you. Another thing to keep in mind Isuzu haven't been the market leader for no reason.

Cheers
Scott n lara
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Follow Up By: ken triton - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 19:34

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 19:34
Brian,
I'm with Scott, I have been in the trucks industry for over 15 years and have many customers with all of the above trucks. I would choose the Isuzu every time, reliability, strength and as Scott says Isuzu have been the market leader in Japanese trucks for a long time. I have no affiliation with any manufacturer
Regards
Ken
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Follow Up By: hazo - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 21:27

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 21:27
Thanks for the replies fellas, I must admit I was leaning towards the Isuzu as it comes in a Trade Pack with tray racks etc. and the premium pack has AMT transmission and 6 speed box plus drivers suspension seat.
Would have to get another fitted for the wife lol!

Do you guys know what the service intervals are on this truck and roughly what fuel consumption would be ?
I know how long is a piece of string !! but just a ball park figure maybe.

Brian
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 14:31

Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 14:31
Hi Brian,
we run four 200nprs and also a 250 which comes with the 6 speed , long range tank. The servive interval is 15000ks. The motor is low stress being 5.2l and governed to 3200rpm. Ours are hire trucks and get a caning. Only issue on the 250 has been clutchs but we think that is customers mistaking 3rd for first.
Make sure you read instructions regarding the DPF, I can not see them being a problem with a private owner ,but are a pain for us as Customers ingore it when it wants to do a burn. They sit on 100 very easy, especially the tray back versions.
They also need top grade syn. oil.
We also run canters with the 130kw motor and the only trouble has been the short life of the handbrake. (this could also be due to renters not releasing them properly)
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: asmithy - Tuesday, Dec 27, 2011 at 20:39

Tuesday, Dec 27, 2011 at 20:39
Another Isuzu vote.
I drove all three brands whilst I was in the armed forces over various types of terrain from hwy to rugged 4x4 driving.
Isuzu won hands down, awesome trucks.
Only my two bobs worth.
Smithy.
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 21:39

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 21:39
Yep another vote for the Isuzu brand, we bought a NPR 150 back in 1999 as a work truck for a crane repair company. Now the 150 is the same as a 200 but with 16" singles on the back, the 200 had duals but smaller diameter, can't remember the size. That little truck was driven by all and sundry for about 6 years and has since done duty as a general hack for another company that I owned. Sold that business a couple of months ago and retired and as the new owners didn't want it I have purchased it out of the company. Don't tell anyone else but never buy a vehicle owned/used by mechanics, that little truck has never missed a beat in all those years and still goes strong. If I was to buy another truck (unlikely..lol) it would be an Isuzu.
Having said that I know a couple of guys who have clocked up a lot of k's in Hinos without trouble. Yeah I know a lot of users go for Mitsubishi but not me.

Cheers
Pop
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Reply By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 21:49

Saturday, Dec 24, 2011 at 21:49
Hi Brian,

Another vote for the Isuzu. I drove a NPR200 trade pack (auto) today towing my boat it performed well on road.

Cheers Wilko
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Reply By: gbc - Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 06:52

Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 06:52
We have an isuzu NPR 200 'rippet' and a Mitsubishi canter 3.5.
The canter is more truck like to drive where the isuzu has a car like driving position and a raised dash. The isuzu's linkages haven't fared as well and the gearbox required attention at 20000 kms. The canter has been driven by the same workers and still drives like new.

The latest generation light trucks with autos and independent suspension are where I would be looking for a comfortable tourer. The only new one we have is an isuzu 500 which would be too big. It is a delight to drive though.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 06:54

Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 06:54
P.s. The canter is the one we All choose to tow the bobcat with. On the trailer it comes in just under 4.5t.
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:44

Sunday, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:44
Current firetruck is a 4x4 Isuzu. Drives ok and is reasonable comfortable in the cab. Only critisim is that it lacks power and it is hard to keep the speed up on Code 1's.
So I guess you need to ensure you get one with anough power for the job at hand.

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Reply By: Fab72 - Monday, Dec 26, 2011 at 09:06

Monday, Dec 26, 2011 at 09:06
Brian,
Much for muchness. Having driven thousands of kms in both, my personal preference is actually with the Hino.

The gearbox in my opinion just has a smoother feel, especially when you get up around the 300,000kms + mark.

Other than that..there really isn't that much difference and perhaps the biggest leverage to sway your opinion may boil down to price.

Suspension (air ride) seats are great when they are working properly but terrible when not. I've become air borne plenty of times over rough roads when the seat is on the blink. Very back jarring. Most trucks (excluding the Volvo 520 which seems to be smooth all the time) travel a bit rough when unloaded but smooth out with a bit of weight.

Goodluck with you decission making.

Fab.
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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Monday, Dec 26, 2011 at 09:19

Monday, Dec 26, 2011 at 09:19
Sorry...forgot to add.
Service intervals for the Hino are 15,000kms.
The DPF burn off is transparent to the opertor...don't even know when it's doing it other than the indicator on the dash.
Fuel range from the standard tank (when fully loaded) is around 680-780kms depending on terrain/wind direction and speed.
Will easily sit on 110kmph all day although the cruise control will only allow 105 as a maximum setting.
Quiet cab, no annoying wind or engine noise.Suspension driver's seat is standard. Pulls harder than a 40 year old batchelor. Drivers seat has left hand side arm rest (sound trivial but makes a difference when doing long country hauls). Steering is reach and tilt adjustable. Good sized overhead lockers. Very bright cab fluro light. Traction control.

That'll do for now.

Fab.
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Reply By: hazo - Monday, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:49

Monday, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:49
Thanks again for all the input.

I think to be fair to myself I'm going to give the local Hino outlet a visit just to compare what deals they may do.

I'm not too keen on the mitsibishi Fuso (mainly because I just dont like Mitsi's) but thats just me.

I think then a side by side test ride of the Hino and Isuzu and I should then be able to make the decision not just according to price.

Brian
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