Volkswagon Amarok

Submitted: Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 06:30
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Morning All,

I am thinking of buying one of the above mentioned vehicles, and would appreciate any information, good or bad about them.

I could be wrong but I reckon that VW has a good name.

Thanks in advance,

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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 06:36

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 06:36

Somewhere on the forum, and in the last 2 months, a post was put in about what dirty fuel, or water did to everyhting.
I think the vehicle was written off, but that seems to be an "old wive's tale"

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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:44

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 08:44
Not sure if it is relevant to you but aftermarket accessories I believe are much more limited than other makes,likewise also the suspension design is such that it is not easy to do an aftermarket suspension lift.
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Follow Up By: Discotwinturbo - Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 03:13

Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 03:13
There is quite a lot on offer now.
Arb saw how well the amarok was going to perform and brought one over from the Dakar in 2010.
They are much bigger, more comfortable, far superior in ride compared to Japanese utes.
Electronics are reliable.
Smaller motor, but that's the future it seems.
Vw is a top brand. Many are switching to this marque and it's siblings.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:40

Monday, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:40
Fair enough, with my earlier enquires there wa little on offer but good to see that has changed.
It is great to see more competition and options in this segment of the market
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Reply By: olcoolone - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:11

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:11
If I was after a 4x4 ute it would be a toss up between the Amarok and Hilux.... the only thing that would not be a plus for the Amarok is the smaller engine BUT the rest would place it lust above the Hilux.

One other downside to the Amarok is spare parts, support and dealer network in regional and remote areas.

Like anything new time will tell how good it is once in the real world.

As for aftermarket gear there is just as much now for Amarok as any other brand including suspension lifts and long range tanks..... I would say as a guess the range of aftermarket gear may be better then the others in the near future due to it's European heritage (heaps of quality Innovative serious 4x4 tuners in Europe)

Volkswagen does have a good name and own many leading marques under "Volkswagen AG" like Bentley, Lamborghini, Bugatti, Porsche, Audi, Skoda and Seat with controlling interest in Scania and MAN heavy vehicles.

They are also major shareholders of Suzuki.

I think from memory they are the 2nd or 3rd largest automotive manufacture in the world with Toyota 1st and GM 2nd or 3rd.
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Follow Up By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 14:33

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 14:33
Secound what Olcoolone says,

It was between the Hilux and the Amarok when i was looking, The only things I could pick the Amarok on were, Smaller engine (might not be a bad thing Guess time will tell) lack of servicing agents in the bush (compared to Toyo which are everywhere) and aftermarket gear.

The ride, power and comfort handling made Hilux look dated.

I ended up with the Lux as its a safe bet and I'm happy with the choice.

Cheers Wilko
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 13:12

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 13:12
hi onemore
the vw range are going to show the way of the future in 4wd's and the current amarok engine is going to be updated here in about first quater of this year with a 2ltr 132kw tdi and an 8speed auto trans inthe dualcab ute they have just taken out first place in the 2011 4wd ute of the year awards amaroks 2ltr twin turbo system and suspension has proved itself as official vehicles 2 years running prior to its release last year in the dakar rallysthey are also proving to be very frugal on fuel from all reports the twin turbo gives the motor even pulling power right through the rev range with no noticable lag gaps according to reports

bucky's comments re dirty fuel etc can be applied to any brand of modern day tech vehicle and you will have major problems no matter what the brand is and even with old tech motors as wellso i take his comments as scare mungering lol

as for after market gear there is already a large range for the amarok from arb etc
and the standard suspension is streets ahead of all the other ruff ridering competitors that need a suspension upgrade from day 1 and it has a very comfortable and roomy cab including rear seat in particular
have a look at these sites for imfo

www.goauto.com.au ( 0ne of these sights has a story about the amarok that was tested on the powerline track in the perth hills area and it went through without a tow much to the disapointment of its knockers who were waiting nearby with snatch straps at the ready but weren't needed)

also caravan world mag did a tow test with the current vw amarok just recently and were impressed so i have no doubt that the upgraded new amarok will be another 4wd ute of the year winning contender

i currently have done nearly 100.000km's in a vw golf hatchback 1.9ltr diesel tdi with dsg 6spd auto and quiet a bit of towing of a 450kg camper trailer they are amazingly frugal vehicle on fuel and yet powerfull even when towing
7.3l/100km towing and 5.2 l/100km's normal driving
i have no connections with vw sales etc just like their technology as it is imho a world leader in vehicle manufacturing and are making the competitors sit up and take noticewith the introduction of the amarok 4wd utes
cheers barry
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan K (QLD) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 18:29

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 18:29
and never forget that vintage VW go anywhere "off roader" ..........the Combi.
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Reply By: Member - Michael A (ACT) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 19:44

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 19:44
ARB seem to have a bulbar and canopy, The Veewee already has a rear diff lock, I swa that Longranger were looking for vehicles to borrow so that they can design a long range tank/tanks And I also saw somewhere that Kaymar are well on the way to a rear bar. Most other things are generic and can b fitted to many vehicles. As for the big v small debate I think it relates to the Ausican/ amertralian thing that its only good if its big. There are chips out there that can give you more power/torque for small modern diesels. And the twin turbos seem to add another 100cc's anyway.


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Reply By: Eric Experience - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 21:06

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 21:06
The Amarok is very impressive. The weakness in the jap utes is the electronics. Getting electronics made in China is costing there reputation. The Amarok Electronics has got " Bosch made in Germany " on most components, those of us old enough to remember Lucas / Bosch will be nodding. Eric.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 14:20

Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 14:20
Through our workshop we don't see a greater failure rate of electronics in Japanese vehicle then any others.

If anything we see a greater number of European vehicle with more expensive, harder to diagnose problems especially between 5 to 11 years old.

European vehicle electronic designs are more complicated then any other country..... the italians are the hardest of all and with the poorest quality.

Don't be fooled into thinking all the electronics in German vehicles are made in Germany... Bosch are no different then Denso, Zexel, Behr Hella, Delphi, CTS and many more who have manufacturing facilities around the world.

Bosch have plants in.....

Germany - India - Brazil - China - France - Czech Republic - Japan - Spain - Turkey - Bursa - Istanbu - Manisa - Hungary - Italy - United Kingdom - Portugal - Romania - Netherlands - Switzerland - Australia - Malaysia - Austria - Belgium - South Korea - Russia - Poland - Sweden - South Africa - Tunisia.

Plus many other 1,2 and 3 tier manufacturing partners also around the world.

Remember the famous "Made in Australia" with local and imported ingredients...... Just because Bosch has "Made in Germany" doesn't mean it's all German.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 22:34

Saturday, Jan 21, 2012 at 22:34
VW's biggest problem is that they can't keep up with the demand for many of their models. They are the flavour of the month. The quality of finish of our Tiguan, and the many neat driving features are way better than the Japanese equivalents, and the Tig is a beautiful drive. i expect this is a similar comparison to the Amarok and Hilux.

Our VW Tiguan has a very similar 2 litre TD motor. Upsides are that its very smooth and it produces big torque at low RPM - unusual for a small capacity TD. The TD has been very reliable in the Tig - only problem that owners report have been a $70 exhaust pressure sensor playing up, and because it is euro 5 compliant, it has the dreaded diesel particulate filter. They can block up, necessitating the engine to do a "regen" to burn off the carbon.

Not sure about taking a VW diesel in the far remote outback because of the electronics. There's a fair chance one of those engine warning lights might go off in the middle of nowhere saying take it to the nearest dealer!

VW have also had teething problems with their smaller DSG "auto" transmissions, but expect they are sorting this out. As above, the auto and a single cab is expected this year.

As as aside, my wife told me yesterday that the Tig's tyre pressure warning light had come on so I told her to reset it, thinking it was just another electronic glitch......checked the pressures today and one of the rear tyres is down to 11 psi... I'm starting to believe some of these stamdard gadgets are pretty good!
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 08:02

Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 08:02
I hate the dsg auto and so does my wife. She has an EOS which is basically a convertible Golf GTI and that dsg has been a real shocker. It surges and clunks when taking off or creeping along in traffic. VW tell us it is normal....what idiot thought that was a good idea? Give me either a manual or a normal auto any day, I don't care if my gear changes are a few hundreths of a second slower. I'm not in a Grand Prix. If they put that in an Amarok then they have lost me.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 08:27

Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 08:27
Gday Mike,

I should have checked first, but the Amarok auto (due in July) is an 8-speed torque converter auto (not a DSG), and its made by ZF. Looks like they'll increase power to 132Kw, and fuel consumption is less than the manual at 7.6 l/100k. It has no low range, but starts off in 2nd, and 1st can be selected for low range offroad work and towing. Its a full time auto.
Ausamarok forum link
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Follow Up By: Discotwinturbo - Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:15

Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:15

I also have a 2008 v6tdi touareg. I dont know if it's a dsg or not, but it's the best tranny I have ever used. Super smooth. Flick it to sport mode and the car transforms. Only occasionally use the tip tronic mode.
We had been lugging a 3.5 tonne trailer all over, and tranny takes it all.
I think maybe you need to find another dealer.....my neighbour loves her eos, of which I have driven and it's a sweet little car (no issues with her tranny). The service manager does not know what he is talking about telling you that's the way it is.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 13:32

Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 at 13:32
2008 touareg is a normal 6 speed auto, not a DSG..
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Monday, Jan 23, 2012 at 09:16

Monday, Jan 23, 2012 at 09:16
I drove a brand new TDV6 Touareg around Europe a few years ago and it was probably the most fantastic car I have been in :-) Definately wasn't a DSG box.
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:43

Monday, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:43
have the 7 speed DSG in the Tig and found I needed to change my driving style slightly.

It can be jerky in low gears if you are not driving smoothly. it doesn't like you constantly changing your mind about how quick you want to accelerate so if you take off normally and then tramp it and suddenly lift off again it can be clunky as it tries to grab the gear you needed.
part of this is the managing the huge quantity of torque at low revs from the TDI

if you remember it is an automatically shifting manual gearbox it is as smooth as butter and in the higher gears you are hard pressed to pick the shifts.
hammer it hard in sports mode and it can be as brutal as any manual box.

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