Kettle which will work on Yammy 2kva generator

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Hi members! Set out on our first retirement adventure with the Kimberley Kamper and when I tried to boil our electric kettle with the new 2KVA yamaha generator it went straight to overload and wouldn't work. Can any one tell me where to get a kettle which is under 2000watts. Thanks!!!
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 22:29

Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 22:29
it's is called a "gas" kettle, some things simply are not practicial for camping and with most items that require a fast and high output of pure heat the only way to go is gas, nothing else really cuts it for camping...
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 23:01

Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 23:01
You beat me to it Joe. Why anyone would want to carry heavy and bulky electric appliances to run from a genny or even when on mains power is beyond my reasoning.

Big L, while you haven't clarified why you want to use electricity to boil water, if you don't have a gas stove, a simple two burner fold up camping stove and small gas cylinder and lightweigh kettle will do the job much quicker and much cheaper.

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Follow Up By: Patrolcrd11 - Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 23:02

Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 23:02
Yep gas is the way to go.

I am sure you will find one, as ours is rated at 1600 at home, but may need more to kick it over. If the yammy won't get it gowing she is sure pulling a fair bit.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony (ACT) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 06:52

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 06:52
We carry a electric jug for the odd times we are on mains power, Saves on gas and I don't have to worry about the whistle when making the early morning cuppa for the boss.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:39

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:39
Hi Tony

Many times i have been out chatting to neighbouring campers and someone has said "what is that whistling noise?" Oops - left the kettle on again :O

However for the few cents it costs with gas, there is no way I'd bother with taking a second kettle. I'm trying to get the load down. We often choose unpowered sites if a generous discount, so i save all round.

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Reply By: Steven G1 - Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 22:37

Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 22:37
Hi Big L,

Check out this Thread 91424.

Cheers Steve
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Follow Up By: pval - Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 23:17

Friday, Feb 03, 2012 at 23:17
Hi,I have a Easycook Billy,it is a 3 litre urn it runs at 800 watts and is suitable for generators.I got mine from Generator Place in Adelaide for $89 and they are great.There are 14 Generator Place shops in Australia.Most normal kettles are over 2000 watts and thats why they won't run on your generator.
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Reply By: uncle - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 06:15

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 06:15
Oh dear, we have just returned from a trip to Honeymoon Bay,inside Jervis Bay NSW. There was a gennie running, day and night there, and all it was for was ONE light globe..lol
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Reply By: Big L - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 08:15

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 08:15
Thanks for all your useful tips. We have gas on the Kimberley so will get the gas kettle for the next trip.The generator was to charge up the batteries when there is too little sun.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:11

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:11
Big L

Each to their own and I know it depends on how long you will be camped at one spot with no sun, but I would have thought the Gennie was more trouble than it's worth.
I have an old KK, but those new ones have oodles of batteries (Ah), which combined with gas, diesel hot water heater, LEDs, solar panel and vehicle charging from an Anderson plug whilst on the move make gennies superfluous

I can't wait to join yo, until then I'm envious
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 08:32

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 08:32
You have the same problem in the KK that we had in the Oka, not having gas the diesel cooktop is slow to warm up so boiling a billy takes time which we solved in the design/build stage.
You have two solutions, either use an ecobilly on the ground with a little tray of meths instead of sticks or use an electric jug.
When building the Oka into a motorhome I installed enough battery power (480ah) to run an 1800w inverter comfortably and enough solar (500w) to keep it charged even in cloudy overcast weather. We don't carry a genny and the solar/electric system has proved to be able to work indefinately without input from the vehicle at all.
Your biggest problem might be getting enough solar on the roof of the KK.
The jug we use is of one litre capacity and is rated at 1,000 watts, boils a litre of water very quickly, faster in fact than the 2400w jug at home. It was bought on ebay from Hong Kong and is just a miniature version of a normal sized one, cordless an all.
We also use a normal 240v toaster and a breadmaker as well as all the usual plugpacks for laptops etc.
The only one I can see on ebay at the moment is this one
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Follow Up By: Wayne David - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:12

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:12
You maybe confusing Kamper with Karavan.

Cheers - Wayne
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 13:38

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 13:38
Yep was too, too early in the morning ;-))
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 11:04

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 11:04
We run a Birko drink heater (850W) on our solar via a 1300W inverter.
It is also useful for soup etc, if required.
Great jigger.
We have no 240V input and no generator.

Cheers,
Peter
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Reply By: Wayne David - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:22

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:22
Big L - Hopefully this electric kettle experience is just a test run before you head off on the real adventure.

If so do yourself a favour and leave the electric kettle at home where it belongs.

My suggestion is to get into the swing of being retired and appreciate that you no longer need to hurry as nearly as much. This means that you can now relax, boil the billy on the gas burner and read the paper.

Actually I did a bit of a test between boiling water on the gas stove & boiling the electric jug and it was neck & neck. And I can vouch that the Kamper has a pretty good gas burner.

Happy trails & enjoy your retirement - Wayne

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Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:47

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:47
I looked at our kettles a while back for a similar question and none of them were under 2,000 w - not even the small cheap ones i get to keep in the shearing and lambing sheds.

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Reply By: Member - Kris E - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:58

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:58
a Billie?
Been used for a long time by many people, can also be used on the camp fire.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 15:26

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 15:26
This or a similar issue keep comming up.

We need to understand that electricity is a slow and inefficient way of heating anything even on mains power.

For heating and heating quickly there is simply no substitute for burning something.

Those little butane stoves are a wonderfull thing.....and the price seems to keep dropping......the chepaest I have seen them is just under $15 and the cartridges seem to be getting cheaper too.

we have a little light weight kettle that boils in no time on one of those little stoves.

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Reply By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 17:08

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 17:08
To answer the question asked,

SWMBO and I have a Sunbeam ("Belle-Aqua") 1L stainless steel kettle which is claimed to draw 1700-1800W

If your Yammy is like the Honda EU20i and rated at 1600W continuous, then even this will probably be too much for it.. If it's rated at 2000W continuous, then it should be quite OK.

There may well be kettles of similar (or smaller) size which draw less current..
IMO the easiest way to find out would be to go into Hardly Normal (or the appliance retailer of your choice) and check the smaller sized units on display.. (simply turn 'em over & read the label;-))

On the issue of the 'whys & wherefors", well I certainly wouldn't fire up a genny just to boil some water, but if ya already got the thing running (charging batteries or whatever), and ya feel like a cuppa (and ya have a kettle that won't trip the breaker), makes sense to me to use the 'lectrickery that's available... will actually be doing the genny engine a favour by making it "work" from time to time...

As for how much "stuff" you want to cart around, well that's for you to decide...


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Follow Up By: goddosglory - Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 20:20

Saturday, Feb 04, 2012 at 20:20
i must be a little bit different....i have a 2.4 yamaha generator..and when i free camp.. i use the jug and the toaster and the microwave..and i enjoy myself..by the way while the jugs boiling i read my email on the computer.. i watch the telly
and sometimes i even put on a dvd.. i plug in the battery charger.. i change my fridges over to electricty while its running....as i said i must be a little bit different to you wankers
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Reply By: robert s4 - Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 16:04

Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 16:04
should of bought a honda
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