Lights dim, is it the battery? wiring?
Submitted: Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:05
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Jac J
Hi All,
I have recently purchased our first van, Windsor Rapid 2004, slowly getting my head around all the ins and outs! Hoping someone can advise.....
The van has been left sitting for a while (no charging) , and I think the battery might need replacing. When we turn the lights on with it switched to battery and also when plugged into mains, they are very dim. We turn more than one on, it dims the others further. I then switched to towing power through the car and the lights were
bright as. Does this mean the battery in the van is dead? or could it be a wiring problem? The battery has had plenty of chance to "charge up", as we've had it plugged into mains for over 24hours.
Also, any suggestions to replacing the globes with LED lower wattage ones?
What is the best way to maintain battery in future? I've heard of "trickle chargers", or is it good enough to plug her into mains every month?
Any help appreciated!
Thanks, JJ
Reply By: The Bantam - Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:28
Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:28
Batteries have relatively short lives and die...there is no way around that....any normal battery over 2 years old is living on borrowed time, and once past 5 years...if still doing the job its, a dead man walking.........ya might get better life out of some of the modern fancy technologies but that only pushed the inevitable back a little.
the give away is when you switch to the power from the tow vehicle, everything improves.
time for a new battery.
to get the best life there are 3 things that are important.
keep the battery cool...not so much of a problem in a van
Do not cycle too deep
Regularly charge the battery with a good quality charger
A good quality multistage charger will go a long way to keep ya battery healthy......a good one can be left connected and running indefinitely...but that can be more from convienience than necessity..as long as you charge ever fortnight to a month and never let the battery get flat you should be fine.
If the battery will not hold good chargel for less that 2 to 3 weeks and a fair charge for under a month it time to replace it.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Jac J - Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 14:19
Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 14:19
Thanks heaps Bantam. Just posted this below in a different followup, but think you might be able to help....does the power still run through the battery even when plugged into mains? I can't understand why it improves so much from towing battery vs the mains power....
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Friday, Feb 10, 2012 at 01:48
Friday, Feb 10, 2012 at 01:48
Well said Bantam
I charge the battery in my Camper Trailer every 2 to 3 weeks, seldome it goes past 1 month
Last CAmper Trailer battery lasted 6 years
I think mainly because of the above statements
Cheers Bucky
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 13:52
Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 13:52
I have a 2004 Windsor Rapid for sale at the moment...YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT
MINE...:-( LOL
When I initially purchased it, I found the interior lights to be dull as
well. I just replaced the ceiling lights with newer type low wattage energy saver thingo's from a caravan store. Nice and
bright now.
I also replaced the tail lights with some lovely LED's because the factory ones with the old globes were a little dull in the daylight. Not any more..
Enjoy the Rapid, they are good vans.
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Follow Up By: Jac J - Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 14:16
Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 14:16
Thanks! I would have but in VIC so a bit far....
Think i might try replacing the globes first, cause I will do anyway, then I'll see how the battery goes. Will mainly be staying powered sites to begin anyway.
When plugged in to mains, does the "power" still go through the battery? I can't understand why the lights are so much better from towing vs when mains plugged in?
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 14:18
Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 14:18
hi
clean the battery terminals and clamps and if its a wet cell battery look to see if the cells have water in them could be below the platesapart from that as mentioned by most its probably past its use by date
cheers
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 14:23
Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 14:23
forgot to mention
check the earth wire and clean where it goes onto chassis if its wired like that ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 15:09
Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 15:09
Don't know how yours is set up but my understanding is the mains power would NOT go through the batteries.
Your batteries only charge when when the cars alternator is running, or you have some type of auxiliary (generator or solar panels) hooked up to your batteries to do the charging.
I'm not a guru on this stuff but I think that's how it goes, others will confirm this for you.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 15:21
Thursday, Feb 09, 2012 at 15:21
What happens with the lights re mains v battery varies from van to van.
in the old days we had two seperate systems, a 240v system and a 12 vlt system with a lamp from each in the various fittings.
One hopes that have given that one away by now.
if you have a 12 volt lighting system running off a battery and that battery is then hooked up to a manis charger.....argualbly the sensible way to do it these days.
the battery will remain in circuit whne the charger is connected to 240v.
this results in a couple of things.
If the battery is buggered and wont charge, the charger may not have enough schnaps to overcome that and bring the system voltage up.
how ever the car alternator and battery may have enough go to raise the syeten voltage......the buggered battery will still be trying to drag the system down though.
If you still have old style filament lamps....ya need to get rid of those and replace them with LED quick smart,s you will reduce your current drain a hell of a lot.
anyway, do al lthe other checks, like battery terminals and earths and stuff...because you should anyway.....but I recon your battery is "DEmsed, it, if it wasn't straped to its bracket it would be pushin up the dasies, berreft of life it rests, its singin with the chior invisibule....its bleedin snuffed it"
cheers
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Follow Up By: Jac J - Friday, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:01
Friday, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:01
Thanks again! Big help. I assumed that the battery was being charged when plugged into the mains. Will
check this out. Not sure how to, but it is in for service at the moment so hopefully they can tell me! Cheers, JJ
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Reply By: Charlie B2 - Friday, Feb 10, 2012 at 13:14
Friday, Feb 10, 2012 at 13:14
Hi all,
I might have missed a response along these lines and I'm far from an expert on caravan electrics, but is there ANY possibility that the charger itself has failed in some way?
Maybe the battery's not too flash, or even
well on the way out, but if lights are brighter when connected to the tow vehicle, I'd reckon I'd be checking the on-board charger, too. At least I'd drop an ammeter between the charger output +ve and the battery +ve to see what's going on.
Regards,
Charlie
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Follow Up By: Charlie B2 - Friday, Feb 10, 2012 at 13:34
Friday, Feb 10, 2012 at 13:34
Hi all,
Sorry for the quick follow-up, guys, but it might also pay to
check whether the 240v circuit-breaker tripped out when you plugged the van lead into the mains and switched it on -
mine often does if I've had the 12v circuit switched on at the moment I connect to the power point. If that happens you can have the charger apparently "on" but it ain't.
At this point, it's worth checking everything!
Regards,
Charlie
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