Hole in plastic water tank

I have a 60 lt black plastic caravan water tank under the chassis of my vehicle and it has a hole about the size of a 10 cent coin. Unfortunately I can't remove it so I need to repair it in situ. Has anyone got any ideas, as it is for drinking it needs to be non toxic.

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John
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Reply By: Bushranger1 - Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 20:53

Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 20:53
G'day John,
Pretty sure those ABS plastic tanks have to be repaired by plastic welding.
I repaired my canoe made of the same plastic with a soldering iron & some strips of ABS plastic.
I don't believe there is an adhesive that will do the job but maybe someone else knows of one if it is available.
Cheers
Stu
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Reply By: gbc - Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 21:13

Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 21:13
Try to get some ferropre from the local plumbing supplies.
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Reply By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 22:40

Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 22:40
I repaired mine with some plastic water tank repair putty I bought from SuperCheap autos. Works like that metal cement but is made for plastic water tanks.

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Follow Up By: John Russell - Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:13

Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:13
Thanks for the replies, will try the repair putty or Ferropre before I take the soldering iron to it. The hole is already about a 10 cent coin, don't need to make it bigger.

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John
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 22:59

Sunday, Feb 26, 2012 at 22:59
Good luck!!!
I tried plastic welding on the 1MM hole worn in mine and ended up with a 10MM hole. the problem is , is that if it has worn through , then the plastic all around the hole is wafer thin.
A new tank is only about $85 AFAIR from Caravans Plus online, depending on the model.

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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:57

Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:57
Is the tank black?
If it is it is almost certainly made from Polyethylene and the only sure way to repair it is to have it hot air welded. Easy job for a specialist. Very difficult without a proper hot air welder. Small holes or cracks are a soldering iron repair possibility.

If the tank is custom made and white it is probably made from ABS.
ABS can be solvent welded with MEK, but the patch MUST be ABS also.

There is also a small possibility of it being custom made from Polyethylene. This is another hot air weld only material.

In all cases the patch MUST be the same material as the original tank.

Cheers,
Peter
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Follow Up By: John Russell - Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 18:01

Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 18:01
Peter,

Yes the tank is black. Any idea around Geelong who could do the job re hot air welding?

Regards

John
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 20:16

Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 20:16
Look in the yellow pages under ''Plastics fabricators''. They are likely to have welding facilities.

Cheers,
Peter
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 09:25

Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 09:25
I once repaired a plastic tank a long time ago with out bogging or welding ect.

The hole was similar to a 10 cent diameter.

I used a Toggle Bolt and a Flat Stainless Steel Washer with the bolt hole the same diameter as the toggle bolt and a Fibre Washer.

You could use a Rubber Seal Washer from a plumbing store.

Check with your local hardware store if you don't know what a Toggle Bolt is.

Very easy fix.

Cheers

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Reply By: blown4by - Friday, Mar 02, 2012 at 23:57

Friday, Mar 02, 2012 at 23:57
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Reply By: Tim the tool man - Thursday, Mar 08, 2012 at 13:16

Thursday, Mar 08, 2012 at 13:16
Hi all,

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