IS THIS SCAM or LEGIT ?

Hi,
scam mate.
No one will ship a vehicle from Tas to Port Maq, give you five days to play with it and ship it back giving you a full refund...would you do that for someone you don't know.

This is as scammy as you can get.Your chance of ever getting a refund would be about 1% of your chance of winning lotto

Has SCAM written all over it, just because he is training does not mean he could not do the deal, this is a usual ploy by scum from the African countries that normally involve you paying for the transport of the vehicle up front and depositing the money via bank transfer or western union.

Some poor sods have actually paid for the vehicle up front.

The paperwork that is getting supplied is getting more and more accurate with copies of bank transfers and vehicle movement orders being almost perfect. The company is genuine as is the vehicle, probably just they are piggy backing on it.

Of course this one could be the real deal, but do not pay any money even if they supply you with proof that they have transferred cash to your account until you have that cash in your hand and can access it.

I deal with people that have fallen victim to these scams and it is not nice to tell them there is not much that can be done.

Check out consumer affairs in your state, they will set you straight.

A very common story Bob

Have a look at this site..

http://www.autoprofessionals.com.au/car-scams/car-movers-fraud-warning/

Hi Bob

It is a wonder that the Police have not looked into this person and take the details off of the internet.

There was a lady here in Adelaide a few weeks ago that handed well over $20,000 for a car that was being sold almost identical to what you have said, also by a person in the Armed force and heading for duty overseas. She made contact and all sounded great, but when she placed the money into the A/C, the person could not be contacted, either by internet or phone. The story made the TV news in Adelaide and there was nothing that could be done to track down the lady's money, with the only sound advise, buy a car from a reliable car dealer, and not from the internet.


Keep clear of this scam

Cheers


Stephen

Just tell them you are holidaying in Tassie and will be in Hobart so if they give you directions you can visit to inspect it prior to purchase.
See what reply you get.

I am sure they will have an excuse not to be able to arrange it.
Keep away from good deals.

Ross M

Agree definite SCAM.
Had similar when selling a camper.

Just to add to it..... This web site may be bogus, here is a whois search of the web site name.


Domain Name topcarmovers.com.au
Last Modified 14-Feb-2012 04:54:49 UTC
Registrar ID Namescout
Registrar Name Namescout
Status clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant Top Cars Direct Pty Ltd
Registrant ID ABN 46 146 215 054
Eligibility Type Company
Registrant Contact ID NMS2060158
Registrant Contact Name Phillip Railston
Registrant Contact Email philliprailston@gmail.com
Tech Contact ID NMS2060158
Tech Contact Name Phillip Railston
Tech Contact Email philliprailston@gmail.com
Name Server dns.namescout.com
Name Server dns2.namescout.com


Notice the last modified date of only recent and the Gmail email address.

This Phillip Railston is using the details of an seeming legit Adelaide based car reseller to register the .com.au name.

AND check this out...

http://www.autoprofessionals.com.au/car-scams/automobile-escrow-fraud-warning/

This SCAM has been around for ages.

The only part i dont get is you say you are from NSW now ive never been there but i will bet there are more 4 yo prados there than in any other state you could buy face to face

Thanks for all the replies people. The Carsales website have advised me with the following email
BUYER ALERT

""Dear Carsales Network Customer,

Removed or Suspended Advertisement

You recently sent an enquiry on the following item:

AD ID Number: SSE-AD-583604

Description: 2008 Toyota Landcruiser Prado Grande

Rego:

Price: $49,500

Please be aware that this advertisement has been suspended or withdrawn from display on the Carsales Network (this includes Carsales.com.au, Carpoint.com.au and our member websites).

We withdraw or suspend advertisements if we consider that the advertisement may:

be illegal or fraudulent;
infringe the intellectual property rights of a person; or
otherwise be in breach of our Advertising Terms and Conditions.
An advertisement may also be suspended if we consider that the advertisement has been accessed or modified by an unauthorised person.

An advertisement will not be removed because of an incorrect Post Code.

We take this opportunity to remind you that you are solely responsible for your dealings with any seller and urge you to buy responsibly.

Visit www.scamwatch.gov.au for information on learning how to recognise, report and protect yourself from scams. You can also check out the Play It Safer Online section on our website for tips on safe and responsible buying.

WARNING: Recently scammers have sent false emails to consumers about advertisements removed by Carsales. The email is made to look like it was sent by Carsales, verifying the sale as legitimate. If you receive such an email it is likely to be a fake, designed to convince you to enter into a transaction with the scammer – please do not hesitate to Contact us (03) 9093 8666 if you have any doubts or for further assistance.

TAKING CARE ONLINE: We'd like to remind you that even though you use the internet to find vehicles and other items on the Carsales Network. The vast majority of transactions are face-to-face, which means you (or a trusted friend or advisor) should inspect the item and conduct other due diligence (like a REVS check to see if any money is owed on a vehicle) before handing over any money. For more information on buying safely please have a look at our Play It Safer Online section.

NEVER: Send money in advance of receiving the item. Please let us know if a seller asks you to send money first, especially using services such as Western Union or MoneyGram.

Regards,

Consumer Services Team ""

Once again, Thank You for all the responses. Bob

This link might be helpful.
http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/cscp/eCrime/
It is the Queensland Police web site on internet fraud related crime. (I am sure other states would have a similar site.)
One of the very important issues of internet crime is to define where the offence occurred. For example the victim may reside in NSW, but the offender usually resides in another state or overseas and that is usually where the crime originates from. This site gives a very good explanation of this issue.
Kevin

I live in Tassie, not a lot of army training happens here!

Hi Bob

If you cant look at it (cars, campers, caravans) dont buy it.

Cheers Wilko

sounds exactly like the low-life who worked in Barcelona but the car was in Tas. in a container ready to be shipped - after you'd paid your money of course.

He says he "can't handle the sale". My ar$e. Give it a miss and save yourself a lot of grief and money.l

my grandfather used to say, "a fool and his money are easily parted". I you have to ask the question you may be bordering on the "fool" end of the scale.

This will be a SCAM, the same happened in USA recently with a Powerboat to an Aussie experienced bloke, he was drawn -in by dummy ( but real looking paperwork) the bank transfer went through & the cash went west..he thought it had ALL checked out as safe..WRONG !! luckily it was only a deposit. Deal with who you CAN see.

Mate all crap. I have reported that many of these scams to ebay I have now given up, they dont give a bleep . There was a prado 3 door ZR I think it was (top of the range 3 door current shape) was so cheap. I had no intentions of buying it but did a Vic roads check on it, come up write off. Now this thing had been re-registered (dont know how). Now it would have to have been some thing big to write off a virtually brand new 4wd worth over 50k new. I emailed him and asked what level did the water get to. (thought Id take a gamble to see if he would answer me ) he did. Just got up to the sills he said, fresh water or salt water ?? He replied fresh water, I sent an email back saying he was full of bleep and I was reporting him to ebay for false advertising. Nothing happend, it sold, but who ever bid on it renigged on it and didnt take it, blow me down it was on there again and sold for more the 2nd time. There are some stupid people around especially when there are that many checks you can do..................Mate the old saying goes "" if its to good to be true then probably is"" Mate not sure how much you want to spend but there are plenty of prados around. May I ask how much you want to spend ?? How many klms you looking at ?? Diesel/Petrol ?? How old ??..................