Mud Terrains on the tarmac?

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:34
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Hi all,

I have noticed quite a few vehicles of late getting around town with Mud Terrains on. Judging by the look of the rest of the vehicle it's more of a cosmetic thing to make the car look a bit more macho but looking to get a set of these as they are the ideal tyre for the terrain I'm planning to tackle.

Is anyone out there happy with mud terrains as their "all round" tyre? Are they dangerous in the wet on the tarmac?

Cheers

Craig
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Reply By: ross - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:56

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:56
Most owners who have them,only have them once unless they really need them.
They tend to be noiser and the big chunks wear away quicker as there is usually less surface area touching the road.
The less it is like a car tyre the less it will perform in wet or any other situation on the road.
Of course it depends on the aggressiveness of the the mud terrain,some of them are really a more chunkier type of All Terrain.

They are great for the terrain they are designed for but I would have to be going there regularly before I fitted.

The best mud terrains are those that self clean when deflated.
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Follow Up By: hamo - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:22

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:22
I call my mud tyre's the growlers.
Do i use them for every day driving . not on your life, thier 2 noisy.
I take them off after use & put my all terrains back on.
& when im taking my van away i take the all terrains off & put my road tyres on.

Yep i've got 3 sets of wheels & tyres

Hamo
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Reply By: Member - Matt L (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:09

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:09
get a set of A/T'S YOU WON'T REGRET IT, HAD THEM ON ALL MY 4X4'S AND I BEEN EVERYWHERE MAN. the brand is up to you,but my pick is BFG. I know this will start another round of debate as it always does.
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Follow Up By: ross - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:51

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:51
Ive tried the BFG A/T (3 times) and they were good,but I think Bridgestone D694 are better in the sand and on road.
Just getting ready to purchse my 2nd set of D694.
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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 18:17

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 18:17
agree with Ross, the D694s are better in sand and maybe road. Only did a few thousand on my 694s before trading the car but it would've been interesting to see how they wore. I've gone back to BFGs because I got a good deal on them and liked them last time, particularly offroad. Oh alright, they're a bit sexier than the 694s too.

btw, do you know if the 694 still comes in a 10 ply?
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Follow Up By: ross - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 21:17

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 21:17
Steve I didnt get the mileage you often see claimed on the net and the advertising blurbs. Ill take a guess and say it was around 40000.
I have the 10 ply now but forgot to ask if the prices I got for were for 10 ply.
I did ask for the LT variety so Im hoping 10 ply still exist.

If I buy four 235x85xR16,I can get a $50 fuel card and I also get a $5 RAC discount off each tyre.
So with the discount it was $295 each fitted+ the fuel card.
You could say $282.50.
I still have a few others I want to ring for pricing but thats down from my 1st offer which $320 each.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 22:15

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 22:15
Another vote for the 694, not the longest lasting tyre(50000 out of mine) but superb on wet tar and as quite as a road tyre and I was surprised how grippy my new lt694s are in the mud as well.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:16

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:16
I run Mickey Thompson MTZ 40% Road & Sand, 60% Dirt & Mud I got 75000 kms out of my last set. I don't go offroad as much as I would like, they are great in the wet as well.
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Follow Up By: Dave(NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 13:26

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 13:26
Yeah I agree,
I'm running MTZs and find them great and fairly well behaved on wet bitumen. Mud terrain's are a softer compound so if using a lot on road and drive hard or have a heavy vehicle they will wear quicker.
Cheers Dave.
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Follow Up By: cookie1 - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:44

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:44
Running Mickey Thompson ATZ 4 and have done sand and off-road and leave them on the car all the time as I too can't be bothered changing them, call me lazy :), they seem to be wearing quite well.

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Colin
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 18:24

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 18:24
I too run MTZ mud terrains as a daily driver and about to fit my third set. For a muddy I think they behave very well on the bitumen.
Regardless a MT is a compromise as a road tyre and a AT is better suited but it is a compromise I am happy to live with rather than running two sets of wheels
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Reply By: GT Campers - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:16

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:16
Yes it can be a 'look at moi' thing! Or, it can be an dedicated off-road rig, second vehicle, just being driven to the shops. Muddies are usually not much fun on tarmac - noisy, poor handling, cost fuel a

nd power, lacklustre grip and with click-fingers breakaway. For dual purpose highway/off-road use an all-terrain (A/T) makes more sense, more often

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Reply By: Member - Cruiser74 - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:29

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:29
Thanks, that pretty much clears it up! I have a set of Maxxis 751 Bravo Radials which came with the car. They're brand new and from all reports they're a pretty good budget A/T tyre. They're pretty quiet and seem to handle well on the tarmac, I have only had the vehicle a couple of weeks and haven't had a chance to get an idea of what they're like on any really rought stuff. Will see how they go but likely to take 'em off and get something akin to what Troll has suggested and keep the Maxxis as spares.

Thanks again, as a new member I am grateful for so many people jumping on to help me out!

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Krakka - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 13:31

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 13:31
I personally leave my muddies on all the time these days, BFG KM2 were very good on wet bitumen, now running Toyo MT and also seem good in the wet. Previously have ran Bridgestone MT and also good.
PITA changing tyres all the time, been there, done that.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:08

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:08
I am looking at KM2s or Toyos or MTZs - while I am looking at offroad the reality is that bitumen is also a major issue - just getting there and back.

How did your Km2s wear (my dealer has said they are not real good).

The dealer is pushing the Toyos (good sidewalls apparently) so I am interested in how they are wearing. At between $400 - $500 for 35" I am not keen on spending heaps on something that will wear pretty quick.

Thanks

Garry
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Follow Up By: Member - Krakka - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 19:04

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 19:04
Hi Garry,
Happy with the wear on the KM2's, have just changed them over for the Toyo's for the sidewall strength, km2's have done about 50K with plenty of cuts and a few chunks missing, have done some hard work and plenty of bitumen, I would expect another 10-15K useful AT life out of them.
Lets face it, muddies don't really perform well as muddies after about 50% wear.
They are pretty quiet on the black top for muddies.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 19:17

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 19:17
Thanks Peter,

My vehicle is a dedicated offroad vehicle not a daily driver but even so, most kms end up being on the bitumen. Afterall from my place - 500kms to the Vic high country, 300kms to the Snowy's - even 60kms to the Brindies even though it is 10km away in a straight line - all on the bitumen.

So it is important - within the restrictions of the muddy design they still need to give reasonable onroad longevity and satisfactory grip.

Cheers

Garry
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Follow Up By: Member - Carl- Thursday, Mar 22, 2012 at 00:17

Thursday, Mar 22, 2012 at 00:17
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I used the BFG Mud K2 on my F250 and found them fantastic. Not noisey (Ok F250 is noisey anyway) and no trouble in the wet sealed roads either. We were dragging a 4 ton caravan and I would certainly get them again.

Look at the manufacture date on the tyre however.
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Reply By: Gossy - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:35

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:35
it does bring a smile to my face to see MT's on a car, wearing bald and there is no chipping or scratches etc on them. Never seen a rough track. CUBS.
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:02

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:02
Yes, to me like a Ducati with 20MM wide "chicken strips."
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:46

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:46
Been running BFG MT KM2's on my 40 series - don't find them noisy at all and get great wear out of them. Wouldn't run anything else.

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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 18:58

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 18:58
course you can't hear em over that lovely, whisper quiet, purring engine.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 21:25

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 21:25
Damn Steve, beat me to the punch.

You can't hear the stereo, let alone the tyres.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 21:31

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 21:31
Wasn't going to suggest that - it's actually all the ssquekas and rattles in the back...

New one is going to be quiet tho
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Reply By: Member - Tezza Qld - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 16:55

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 16:55
Hi

If you are mainly black top driving get a set of LT construction AT'S

They will also be fine for your annual pilgrimages.

I use Kumo Venture AT'S on my Jeep doing beach and city driving

On the tourer I keep mudterrains , currently badly chipped and chunked Mickey Thompsons. These will be replaced with KM'2s which are in the shed.. Not because I think their better just they were cheaper.
I don't work on k's per tyre. I use to be happy to get thirty or forty thousand k's
but now I work on one set per year.
Because we do a fair amount of off track work most are repaired to some degree during the year

Lets face it are you going to leave home on a remote trip with half worn tyres ?


Cheers Teza
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Reply By: Member - Richard W (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 18:43

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 18:43
Craig,

I'm on my 3rd set of BFG muds and looking at getting 75,000KM from them the same as the previous two sets, apart from two smashed sidewalls.
They are a bit noisier than the original A/T's but the 100 series has good sound proofing.
They have done plenty of outback touring and I've had a few punctures and as said smashed two sidewalls.
Overall I'm pretty happy but may look for something cheaper when I need to replace them.
I previous had the A/T's on a second set of steel rims but never used them so sold them on EBay.
No problems with braking or in the wet.
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Follow Up By: Member - David Will (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 20:09

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 20:09
Hi Richard,

I have to agree with you, I have had 2 sets of BFG Mud's and got 85,000 to 90,000km out of them and had run them all the time.

I am running Maxis Mudders at the moment and have about 35,000km on them and they still look like new.

I do use them all the time with about 70% road and 30% off road.

I am running std 235/85/16.

Very happy to run mud's all the time as I hate changing tyres.

David

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Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 21:48

Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 21:48
Judging by the look of your vehicle Craig I'd say fitting muddies would be more of a cosmetic thing to make the car look a bit more macho ;-) (Pot calling kettle black :-))
The perception that all mud tyres have poor handling, wear quickly & are dangerous in the wet is a thing of the past. Some current Muddies are good allrounders so do make an excellent choice for those with just one set of rubber. The best at the moment would arguably be the Goodyear MTR.
Cheers Craig..............
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Follow Up By: Member - Cruiser74 - Thursday, Mar 22, 2012 at 00:02

Thursday, Mar 22, 2012 at 00:02
Touché Crackles! FYI I recently bought the car like that! Rims not really my style but it's an A1 100 series. Very happy with it. Thanks for your feedback.
Craig
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, Mar 22, 2012 at 17:52

Thursday, Mar 22, 2012 at 17:52
Yes I thought it looked like a car polished up for sale with the sparkling white raised lettering on the tyres :-)) Don't forget to put the white lettering inwards on the Muddies as that's the only way to really tell who's a serious offroader & who's pretending ;-))
Had a 105 series for 11 years & was a great tourer. Have fun.
Cheers Craig...........
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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Thursday, Mar 22, 2012 at 04:05

Thursday, Mar 22, 2012 at 04:05
Better be carefull !
They can get greasy on bitumen.

Cheers
Bucky
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