Do you use Quilts, Sleeping Bags or something else?
Submitted: Sunday, Apr 08, 2012 at 15:35
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i'machocoholic
Last year when camping, the temperature got down to around -1 when we were on the
Gibb River Road. Not being able to sleep due to being cold was no fun. We took a super dooper warm quilt which still didn't do the job. I was still cold with thermals on, a beanie and socks. I even had a hot water bottle which went cold by about 2am!
My question is what do people take when camping? I'm not sure this time whether to take good quality sleeping bags and zip them together, to stick with the quilt and use it with the sleeping bags or more blankets, or is there something else that people use and can recommend? As we won't be in a tent this time but a Tvan, I am tempted to get an electric blanket and use it with an inverter. Unfortunately I'm not like the average person....I feel the cold more than most. Any suggestions?
Reply By: Bazooka - Sunday, Apr 08, 2012 at 17:34
Sunday, Apr 08, 2012 at 17:34
I had a famous name bag rated to -10 years ago which wouldn't keep me warm even in above zero conditions. Eventually got tired of it and took it back for an exchange. Same bag, same filling, totally different result. If you feel the cold more than your partner then good quality separate bags would be the go. As you say you can zip them together if required, or use them as quilts. If your sleeping mats are closed-cell foam then they should give you adequate insulation. Cheapies may not be closed-cell.
A few other tips which may or may not apply.
-Don't go to bed cold.
-Make sure you've had enough water during the day.
-Try a few different things to improve your matabolism.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Sunday, Apr 08, 2012 at 18:17
Sunday, Apr 08, 2012 at 18:17
You will probably find that sleeping on a proper mattress in your Tvan to be a totally different experience to sleeping on the ground. There will be less chance to lose heat to the ground so you stand a good chance of keeping warm with a couple of provisos. Make sure that you have some ventilation under your mattress - if it gets damp it will be impossible to warm up. (This topic has been discussed several times on here so do a search for how to avoid condensation). As others have said dont go to bed cold, have enough layers both under and over you and as necessary wear a beanie and socks.
We sleep in our Troopy on a foam mattress, and when its very cold (frost on the vehicle) we use a medium weight doona plus blankets. When its a bit less cold the doona is packed away and we just have blankets - these are both wool ones and cotton waffle type alternating so there is plenty of air trapped between them. The bulkiness of bedding, especially when it has to be stowed out of the way is a pain, but at least if you have the right stuff you can be pretty confident that you can keep warm no matter how cold it gets.Image Could Not Be Found
The photo was taken after probably the coldest night we have ever spent when camping - near
Lake Hindmarsh (Vic) in August 2005. Rain had gathered in the spare on the roof that had a tarp over it - and then froze solid.
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Val.
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Follow Up By: i'machocoholic - Monday, Apr 09, 2012 at 08:00
Monday, Apr 09, 2012 at 08:00
Thank you Val. I'm hoping that you're right about sleeping differently in the Tvan. We have only recently got it and unfortunately not done a reccy to
test it out yet. We leave for our trip in around 6 weeks so will get to try it out after my other half has finished doing some additions on the inside.
We understand that there is some under mattress protector which is very good but very expensive. I've heard alternatives such as garden mesh type stuff from the local hardware which I think I read on another older thread.
An amazing photo! Thanks. Linda.
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Reply By: Ross M - Sunday, Apr 08, 2012 at 19:42
Sunday, Apr 08, 2012 at 19:42
G'day i'machocoholic
My wife feels the cold even when it isn't, so we use as good mattress and a wool doona. May need an extra blanket when it gets cold though.
Like you we have a tvan and find it quite insulated and cosy most of the time.
If near power we use a small fanheater to warm the inside before bed. can also do this if you have a generator.
I have some heat pads from inside heated car seats, from wreckers, and while these draw some current they would also be ok if your battery capacity is ok for it.
Just a few options.
Ross M
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Follow Up By: i'machocoholic - Monday, Apr 09, 2012 at 08:52
Monday, Apr 09, 2012 at 08:52
Hi
Ross, I liked the idea of heat pads. Just wondering which draws more power - the heat pads or electric blanket with an inverter?
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Reply By: happychap - Monday, Apr 09, 2012 at 14:25
Monday, Apr 09, 2012 at 14:25
If you are a person who is especially sensitive to cold, it may pay to visit a good doctor, and have them run tests on your thyroid. Excess sensitivity to cold is a symptom of hypothyroidism (under-performing thyroid), and many doctors do not make the association between the two.
I can speak from experience. I used to feel the cold at the drop of a hat, until the good doctor I sought out, ran the tests and confirmed the problem. (It was also a contributing factor to a heart attack.) Since then, and appropriate (natural) medication, feeling excessively cold is almost a distant memory.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Apr 09, 2012 at 18:57
Monday, Apr 09, 2012 at 18:57
We also own the Tvan, but have the foam mattress. All we ever use on those sub zero desert nights are the normal sheet and a decent doona.
We carry extra blankets but in 2 years haven't used them. They say the innerspring mattresses are not as warm as foam, but can't imagine the difference would be much.
The Tvan is a lot warmer than a tent and a bit warmer than a good swag, so you won't have a problem.
cheers
Phil
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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Tuesday, Apr 10, 2012 at 08:22
Tuesday, Apr 10, 2012 at 08:22
When Camping with swag
I have a ground sheet, which I got from Clarke Rubber. It is an Aerobic's Matt, (AFAIK). It's waterproof, and approx 20mm thich, hi density foam., light blue in colour, and not those thin rolls, you get from camping shops.
Inside my swag, or tent, I have I have another hi density foam mattress, and I always have 2* -10 rated "jumbo"sleeping bags, that are fully zippered.
On hot nights, they are just throw overs, or I sleep on top of them.
Been in -5c, in the Simpson, and trust me, I am as warm as.
Mates have all gone over to the
camp stretchers, but I still sleep on the ground. That is a preference thing. But they all recon I am mad, but my Areobice mattress does the job just nice, even in the tent.
Cheers
Bucky
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Tuesday, Apr 10, 2012 at 08:23
Tuesday, Apr 10, 2012 at 08:23
And yes, a good pair of woolen SOX really helps
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Reply By: Sigmund - Tuesday, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:24
Tuesday, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:24
The 12v electric 'blankets' draw a lot of current but may be an option eg. for those with cold feet who just need to warm them up when first in bed.
The Tvan mattress should have some padding but may be improved with a wool underlay.
For those lying on the ground, closed-cell foam mats and thermarests have been superceded in cold conditions by Exped Downmats and Synmats - they're a cross between an airbed and a doona.
Sleeping bags these days come with temp ratings but there are too many variables for them to be reliable (eg. breezes, your own metabolic rate, how
well you've eaten, whether you're tired, condensation on the bag outside etc).
My prob is cold feet and this time out I'll just be taking an old fashioned hot water bottle! The missus has never warmed (ahem) to my putting them against her back.
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