Fourby Upgrade - 100 v 200?

Hi Peter,

I just made the plunge from the Patrol to a 200 GX

True you can't select which tank you draw from but I couldn't with the Patrol either you merely had the choice of when to fill from the auxillary tank although it does sip some fuel at each start up.

I am about to hit the Canning myself and had a 180L aux tank fitted, fully loaded on a few trips carrying 90L water 20L diesel + fuel + 3 men we got about 1500km range averaging 18L / 100km whreas the Patrol was 23L / 100km.

Am I happy with the 200 - you bet, the raw power is unbelieveable and I can overtake with confidence.

Hope this is of some use

Cheers

Colin

Peter, We have a 100series T/D auto and tow a three T Phoenix caravan, have covered around 60000ks. with the van and have been very happy. Yes it has two tanks and gauge works on both. I might mention that I was always adamant that I would always drive a manual until my good friend, the Toyota agent talked me into trying an auto, I would never choose a manual again, I think that there are many more guys with the same thought.
Cheers, Nev.

I have a 105 (soon to have aftermarket turbo), many have been done and the only concern I have doing mine will be the gearbox, they don't have very good gearbox, unlike the factory T/Ds or petrols, There are a few horror storys about turbo-ing a 1HZ, mainly coming from bad installations or over fuelling/over boosting, If you don't know the one you are looking at its history, be very cautious

If you can get a low mileage 100 (factory turbo) manual, grab it, they are as rare as, most are auto.
All the T/D 100's are IFS, I wanted live front axle and part time 4WD,
As for fuel tanks on the 10# series there is a switch that lets you choose which tank the fuel is drawn from, The fuel gauge changes to suit with a light indicating if you are using the smaller sub tank, I wasn't aware you couldn't do that with a 200.

There a plenty of 200 owners who say that their vehicle is on a whole new level compared to the 100 they used own, It will be long time before I will be in a position to choose, that's why I'm spend the coin on getting my 105 to move a bit better on the highway

I'm a bit old school, I like vinyl floors and seats, windows you wind up by hand, and to see the motor when I open the bonnet.
I LOVE to get something that had 650nm under the foot though

Shane

Had the same issue 12 months ago on what to by.... in the end we bought a 200 series VX diesel.

Could not justify the high price for a 100 series that was all ready 5 years old and over 100,000 kilometres and had no benefits over the 200 series.

We went new because we wanted to fit the Lovell GVM upgrade before rego and also buying new we have a 6 years and 150,000 kilometre factory warranty just in case.

After owning our 200 series for a while you realise how out dated the 100 series is in capability, comfort, handling and performance.

This is our first auto 4x4 and I don't think I would go back to a manual 4x4 again..... there are some things I miss not having a manual but you can work around that, a manual would be good for 5% of our driving but an auto is better for 95%.

With the front solid axle vs independent argument there would only be the extreme high end stuff and I mean extreme where a solid axle would out perform the independent front end and again there are ways around it..... ours being a VX comes standard with the KDSS suspension that gives about 4 to 5 inches extra travel bringing it close to a solid axled 4x4.

The difference what we have found between the two front ends is we can not hit stuff as fast or hard but that's why we have a 12,000 pound winch.... plus less chance of damaging the 4x4 if we go slow, I would rate diff locks over a solid axle anyday.

This gets back to the percentage thing an independent front end handles better, is smoother, doesn't shake and rattle the 4x4 as much and decreases driver and passenger fatigue..... why have some thing that's only going to benefit you in less then 2% of you 4x4ing and hinder you in 98% of driving.

As for the fuel tank, I don't see a need for isolating tanks and chances are if your going to pick up bad fuel you will in most cases be filling both tanks at the one location.... if your worried about damaging one and loosing all you fuel; when was the last time you damaged a fuel tank..... bit like people carrying two spares or a spare tyre on the (no rim) on the roof rack; again I can't remember when the last time was when I needed two spares.

There are things I don't like about the 200 series but it's miles better then anything else that can do what it can do.

You will find the 200 series is a very capable 4x4 and will put your current ride to shame with the refinement and how easy it does things.

Traction control works a treat and enables you to walk up obstacles slowly causing less damage to the 4x4 and environment but still no substitute for diff lock when the going gets very very hard (remember winch).

If towing; a 200 series would be the way to go and I would probably stay clear of a 105 with a turbo if towing a heavy van (small gear box) over rough ground.

Go for the 100 series. We have a 2005 4.2TD auto GXL and are very happy with it.

The single fuel gauge show the fuel status in the "currently selected" fuel tank.

Noting comments above about moving at low revs. Our 100 will slowly move along on level ground just by putting it in gear at idle. And that's in both high and low range. Great for slowly moving in traffic and around the service station while the boss is playing. No throttle made one bloke look in amazement. Chuckle.

Phil

Thanks to all for the comments.

We have decided to proceed and ordered a 200GX this morning.


Peter.