Submitted: Friday, Apr 27, 2012 at 17:40
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g'day all
i'm going to replace the shocks on my 100S,can get gabriel's on flea bay for $132 a pair what do you reckon are they any good,i have standard height IFS suspension and am looking for a good shock to replace toyota originals,any sugestions appreciated.(260K'S on originals)
thanks in advance
cheers blue
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Reply By: Member - Craig F (WA) - Friday, Apr 27, 2012 at 17:48

Friday, Apr 27, 2012 at 17:48
Everyone you ask will have a different opinion on what is best. OME, Bilstene, Toughdog are SOME of the most talked about then down the cheaper end say Ironman. If you take into account the better shocks are 200+ each you need to weigh up what you get for $66.
When it comes to critical parts of the car I would sugest buying what suits your needs not what you can source for a cheap price.

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Reply By: CeaJay - Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 09:51

Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 09:51
Blue fella

Shocks are in my opinion the most critical part as far as possibility of going wrong on a trip?
Even if they are of good quality and reputation.

You have to consider if it is worth it. Chances are that these will end up costing a lot more than the original outlay of a quality set.


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Reply By: Member - Broodie H3 - Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:57

Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:57
When I need shocks I go to about a dozen different suspension specialists, take in what they have to say about what is what and I generally get a good alround view of what is avialable and cheap is not al;ways the best and neither is dear. If you consider where you are going and the type of driving you do normally, I generally find that a medium range shockiee suits my needs, at the moment I still have the Nissan shocks on my pathfinder 550 I'll see what there like when we get back from lake eyre. If they last the distance
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Reply By: Ron N - Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 16:17

Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 16:17
Blue - I gotta go with CeaJay's comments. Cheap shocks are a waste of money. There's any number of ways shocks can be built cheap.
Poor quality seals, low quality oil that boils or foams, poor quality valving, thinner rods, and poor quality mountings.

A low quality shock absorber will overheat on corrugations with the constant pounding - it will leak when the poor quality seals pack it in early - it will end up with fractured mounting eyes (or snapped right off) - and it will just plain not do its job of proper damping, when the going gets tough. Shockers are a major and vital part of your suspension.

A "good name" is no guarantee of quality. Some of the best "name brands" can produce some rubbish, if they have shifted manfacturing to a 3rd world country, or have subcontracted a 3rd world supplier of components.
Do some research by Googling the particular Gabriel model number, and see if you can find any feedback or discussions on other forums.

Cheers - Ron.
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Follow Up By: bluefella - Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 18:37

Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 18:37
thanks all
i think maybe i should stick with genuine toyota,i can get'em for about $50 each.
whats the opinion on genuine
cheers all
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Sunday, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:08

Sunday, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:08
Blue - How do you get genuine Toyota shocks for $50? Have they "fallen off a mates truck"?? [;-)
I guess you're talking about new shocks that people have discarded from new vehicles, where they've upgraded to another brand?

Let's put it this way. Toyota install shock absorbers that do the job for the minimum amount of expenditure on their behalf, to suit most road conditions - including a lot of bitumen and city work.

If you're travelling in areas where the roads still haven't received their fair share of investment of our fuel and other taxes - then you'd be well-advised to go for some superior-ability shocks.
A good quality aftermarket 4WD shock has better damping that results in improved ride and better vehicle control. There's less vehicle sway, reduced bounce after hitting potholes - and they perform much better after several hours of pounding over corrugations and potholes.
A standard shock will lose its ability to dampen properly after a couple of hours of pounding. The oil in the shock heats up, gets thin, sometimes even boils or foams, resulting in degraded and poor performance.

The good quality aftermarket shocks are built more robustly, with better grades of oil, containing additives, that withstand high temperatures better, and which resist foaming.
The good quality aftermarket shocks are built heavier, with better sealing, protection from flying debris such as rocks and mud, stronger mounting eyes - and nearly always bigger diameter, so they contain a bigger piston, and a larger quantity of oil as well. The bigger piston and increased oil quantity all assist in improved damping on rough roads.

Gabriel make a big noise about their rods being chromed, and state that "other manufacturers" only use plain steel rods that are prone to corrosion. Of course, rod corrosion is a big no-no, as corrosion means that the rusty rod no longer provides a perfect sealing surface for the seal.

However, it's entirely possible the original Toyota rods are chromed, and Gabriel is only comparing cheap aftermarket "competitor" shocks. A lot of vehicle manufacturers provide rod protection such as boots that greatly assist in preventing corrosion.
Boots are generally a pretty vital component for a shock, particularly on a 4WD, because a bare, exposed rod is open to impact by rocks and other road debris, which will damage the rod sealing surface much faster than corrosion ever would.

One of the best ways of checking shocks is to place both the original and the aftermarket side by side and compare the differences closely. A top quality aftermarket shock will generally have increased size and weight, a thicker rod, and other features that protect it from road damage.

Cheers - Ron.
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Reply By: Member - G.T. - Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 13:18

Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 13:18
How much for the Toyota shocks? I doubt that the Gabriel would give 260K`S further service, maybe , maybe not. If not too much more $$, the choice in my opinion would be Toyota. Just my 2 Bobs worth. Regards G.T.
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