7 point plugs burnt out
Submitted: Monday, Apr 30, 2012 at 19:59
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Hello everyone. An auto electrician advised today that 7 point plugs are prone to burning out when current is being transferred from the vehicle to a deep cycle battery and fridge in the van. A separate heavy duty cable is recommended between the vehicle and the Van Battery to overcome this problem. My question is this: Has anyone experienced this problem and what damage can be done apart from having to replace the 7 point plugs? I find it outrages, and maybe even dangerous, that caravan outlets can install deep cycle batteries, connect them to 7 point plugs and standard wiring on the vehicle and make no mention of the plugs not being suitable. Thanks
JOHN
Reply By: The Bantam - Monday, Apr 30, 2012 at 22:57
Monday, Apr 30, 2012 at 22:57
If the electrical load and the battery size in the van is small a standard trailer plug should be adequate....
But the syetem and wiring needs to be correctly designed to limit the current to arrouns 10 amps.
the pins in trailer plugs are good for arround 15 amps.
Personally I do not like the plastic flat trailer plugs, they are simply not as
well a desiged item as the traditional round plugs
If you have large batteries or you have heavy drain items in the trailer a standard trailer plug most certainly will not be adequate.
A fridge is a heavy drain item
Mostly 50 amp anderson plugs are used for the connection
cheers
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Reply By: olcoolone - Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 10:44
Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 10:44
We don't see any real issues with 7 pin trailer plugs in general BUT if they are used above their recommended current rating then there could be a problem.
We see a lot of new and used caravans and campers that have below standard shonky wiring and components, the main cause of this is most use unskilled so called trades people to do their work and in most cases they use the cheapest components around.
7 pin flat plugs and socket have a 15amp max rating and the standard round ones have a 30amp max rating per circuit...... They say they can handle this current constantly but I would take it with a pinch of salt and say it should be peak current.
Anything with deep cycle batteries should have a minimum of 6B&S cable through a suitably rated plug and socket that can handle at least 25% more current then needed.
Most installations we will use a3B&S cable and a 175amp Anderson style plug and socket
This is one of the ideal reasons for using a DC-DC charger the charge aux batteries in a caravan or camper..... you have a greater chance of knowing you maximum current load and with a DC-DC charger as it will limit the amount of current to the batteries.
For example if you have a 3 way fridge that most caravans have, they will draw on average 20amps constant, throw in a battery or two and you have another 20 to 30amps plus.... this nearly exceeds 50amp Anderson style plugs and sockets and
well exceeds nearly all trailer plugs and sockets by a long shot.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Wednesday, May 02, 2012 at 06:32
Wednesday, May 02, 2012 at 06:32
Too True coolone !
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