Which Lights?!

I have the oppsosite opinion.

Lightforce fully replaced a 240 Blitz light for me that had water entry and went black, my own fault. Even gave me a new HID globe.

I did have to send it to them, but thats fine.

Have a look how many Hella 4000s you see with missing lenses, or missing altogether with just the base still there. I know, as i sold these lights for years. And they are still my choice of light. But if you dont threadlock the bolts, they will eventually come loose and you will lose either the lense or the whole light assembly.

Hella, will not replace the parts no matter what. No matter how loud you can bark.

I recommend that all nuts and bolts on lights be thread locked. And security nuts added too to prevent theft.

Back to halogen and HID, if you are doing alot of night driving go HID.

The Genesis arent really the pick of the crop but. If you are doing mainly hilly driving then i would go with some spread beam lights. The Genesis spreads are poor though, so might not do a very good job.

I have had a few LED lightbars now, 3w and 10w and have sold them all.

Not my cup of tea, until they get better distance i wont be getting them again.

Although Hella have just released a LED light in the same housing as there 4000X. I reckon they would be worth owning. But would cost the earth.

Nothing beats LED for worklights and stuff, but for me i need some distance too. For you LED may be all you need though.

Muntoo
Yes, I agree as I have heard how good they are at after sales service. But, we were half way through our 3 month Kimberley trip and there was no way we could post the lights and get them back while on the go. Which surely is not an unheard of happening.
Lightforce would not allow us to go to a dealer and get replacement screws. We also did try 2 dealers and they also confirmed that Lightforce does not allow them to fix lights under warranty, even just to replace some screws. The person I spoke to at Lightforce could not understand my dilemma and had no concept of four wheel driving and being away from home for an extended period of time. She even said one of their reps might be near where we are and he could help and gave me his phone number. After a number of phone calls I eventually spoke to him and he laughed as he is in Perth, a long way from the Kimberley and never travels that far. He also could not help, but did send some screws to our home address. As I said, I did go to a hardware and buy different screws but it was the principle of their warranty provisions and the screws should never have come out in the first place. Remembering these lights are not cheap.
Kevin

Lightforce Never again . plastic rubbish and the lightforce people dont give a crap

Rod we have been doing some testing of the Great Whites and comparing them against HID, Halogen with HID conversion and Halogen lights.

The Great Whites are the pick of current LED driving lights and a great for driving in tight hilly terrain but no match on the HID lights for general driving.

What we found was the LED lights generate a very intense bright white light over a distance of 15 to 150m but will illuminate up to about 350m maximum.... the down side of this intense light output at 15 to 150m is your eyes start shutting down not enabling you to see distance reducing reaction time..... remember at 100Kph you traveling nearly 30m per second.

The same applies to LED light bars and some resellers will try and tell you the are better then HID driving lights, WRONG..... again they offer intense short distance light our put but not much else..... think of a work light on steroids.

There is no other light source that has the performance at close range as LED's do but your paying a premium.

The down fall of LED lighting is the light is very directional and has a small scatter spectrum meaning the light will not bend and illuminate around an object like a tree causing a huge black spot....... Halogen and HID don't suffer as much.

Bang for bucks you can not beat HID.

Thanks olcoolone. That is just the information I was after. Regards

To add my 2-bobs worth, I have a set of 7inch Roadvison Cobra HID spotties on my 100 series. Only recently fitted these and as yet have not done any serious night driving other than to adjust the spotties. The mounting system for these lights are that fiddley that i almost un-bolted them and threw them in the bush there and then!!! (normally i am a very patient person)
Prior to my 100 series, I had an 80 series that I fitted with Cibie Super Oscars and I can say that in the 14 years I had these lights on the cruiser, I never once broke a lens, blew a globe or had them come loose. The mounting system was simple, sturdy and very easy to adjust the lights. Although the Cibies are not HID, I am regretting buying the Roadvision at nearly twice the cost of what I could of got Cibies for. Will be driving Perth - Brisbane soon so will be some sort of test for the Roadvisions.

Erad, your spot on as per my post above.

make a very good short distance flood light.

We here a lot of stories from people who had spent over $1200 on a light bar thinking it's the best you can get for vehicle lighting only to be disappointed.

We find our LED light bar is fantastic up to a range on 70m in hilly off road terrain.

Hello Mark,

Like you, I was and still are a Super Oscar fan. I have 55w 4300k HID in mine, the ballasts and sundries fit behind the reflector. Best lights I've ever used, only problem is seeing others coming toward me on hilly roads. I throw out so much light, I don't see the glare of the OP high beam until I see their lights. :(

regards

Marcus

Marcus, unfortunately the Super Oscars no longer fit in the bull bar (Smart Bar) on the Paj, so I had to go for a smaller diamater set of lights.
Where did you get the HID kits for the super oscars?

Mark

Hi Mark,
I purchased from this seller on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H1-HID-Kit-55W-Cibie-Super-Oscar-Britax-X-Ray-Vision-/300549392885?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45fa23c9f5

I have seen cheaper, but these have lasted over two years now. and about 5000klm of night time driving, and still going strong. They take about 5 seconds to get to full power output when they havent been used for a few minutes, like all HID's. The globe is designated as a H1.

Good luck and regards

Marcus

Gday Mob,
Thanks for your feedback.
Particularly the HID Vs "standard" lights info, and also the LED bar-strips.
A good point raised was the spread of the Genesis lights but maybe the right lense could help this (?) and the other options for me to consider, some I hadn't thought of.
Either way, after nearly smacking a wombat, I've got to get them on (or stop driving in the bush at night!).
Thanks for the info. Will let you know how it goes.
Cheers,
Benno

Any of the light comparo tests that I have seen have the Lightforce being one of the best for distance but at the lower end of the pack with spread. If spread is what you are after maybe one of the other brands will suit you better?