Hilux 4x4 crewcab problem.......

That link says Illegal Domain and takes me to Google Docs????

DSE Safety Alert
Safety Alert Title: Use of Toyota Hilux Crew Cab 4 x 4 Vehicles
This Alert Has been issued because of a recent review of our 4x4 vehicle and tanker fleet. It has been identified that a number of Toyota Hilux Crewcab 4 x 4’s exceed the manufacturers front axle capacity in certain configurations. DSE has taken the position that this may create a Safety Risk to the operation of the vehicle in certain configurations and has determined that all Toyota Hilux Crew Cab 4 x 4 Vehicles that are fitted with a steel bullbar and a winch are to be WITHDRAWN FROM SERVICE IMMEDIATELY. Other configurations of Toyota Hilux Crewcab 4 x 4 vehicles can continue to be driven as detailed below.
Safety Alert Number: 07
IMMEDIATE ACTION:
District Managers are to ensure that the following actions are complied with:
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Toyota Hilux Crewcab 4 x 4 vehicles fitted with steel bullbar and winch are to be IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM SERVICE.
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Toyota Hilux Crewcab 4 x 4 Vehicles with the following configurations CAN CONTINUE TO BE DRIVEN:
1.
If the vehicle is fitted with a steel bullbar and no winch, only the driver can use the vehicle. No passengers.
2.
If the vehicle is fitted with an alloy bullbar and a winch, only the driver and one (1) passenger (ie. 2 occupants in total).
3.
If the vehicle is fitted with an alloy bullbar and no winch, only the driver and two (2) passengers only (ie. 3 occupants in total).
4.
If the vehicle is fitted with a roof stowage cage or racks, there shall be no stowage items on the roof.
5.
There shall be no greater than a combined weight 20kg of additional stowage items in the cabin (ie. blankets, map books, water bottles etc).
6.
All stowage items, tool boxes etc located on the tray or in the tub of the vehicle shall be restrained and shall not exceed the Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) capacity. Existing stowage items and tool boxes shall be positioned rearward of the rear axle to counterbalance the front axle loading.
Actions:
All managers/supervisors are to:
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Ensure all staff are made aware of this Alert and that this Alert is placed on Noticeboards.
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All staff are to:
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Adhere to the requirements of this Safety Alert
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Continue to report all incidents into POSSUM in a timely manner.
Safety Alert Author: Graeme Dudley, Safety Manager DSE
Safety Alert authorised for distribution by: Tony Edgar, General Manager Regional Services
Date Safety Alert Issued: 2 March 2012
For more information contact the Safety Alert authors or your Regional OHS Advisor.

Why would Dick Smith Electronics be so worried about this ? lol

There has recently been an upgrade of Hilux front axle loading specs:

http://news.toyota.com.au/hilux-front-axle-capacity-increase

Thsi is more than likely a reaction to the 'Hilux Problem DSE Vic' situation
...

If you do the figures on almost any new 4x4 the majority will be borderline if not overloaded either on axle loading or GVM when fitted with steel bar work, winches & storage systems then loaded with even basic equipment. The difference here is DSE have to provide a safe work place so try to manage vehicle loadings to suit where the average Joe simply overloads.
It's the reason our work place now install GVM upgrades on most of our light contruction vehicle fleet. Parks Vic had the same front axle load problem a few years back on the 70 series V8 Cruiser despite already installing alloy bars. A few vehicles are addressing the problem with new model release's like the Ranger which increased GVM by around 300 to 400KG
Cheers Craig..........

My wife works for DERM in QLD - their exploratory guys and well inspectors have been screwed by this for quite some time now. No hilux, no prado.
Toyota would want to do a little better than a single line web based message, because quite a few fleet managers I know of had written them off over this issue.

Makes you wonder how responsible ARB, Kaymar etc are when advertising all their steel barwork which overloads a lot of vehicles such as Cruisers and Hilux's ??

Cheers

Darryl
Brisbane

hi all. was given this from the Toyota Dealer Website..

Hilux GGN25, KUN26
Front Axle Capacity
Since January, 2005, the Toyota Hilux Workmate (WM), SR and SR5 grade 4x4 models fitted only
with either 205 R16C or 255/70 R15C tyre size are capable of increasing the front axle loads to
1300 kgs. There is an additional tyre loading information placard that certifies this, which is situated
above the standard tyre placard located inside the drivers door opening.
The front axle capacity can be increased to 1300 kgs with the following tyre pressure ????????????????????????
1. Tyre size 205R16C-8PR 110/108S – Cold tyre pressure increased to 260 kPa.
2. Tyre size 255/70R15C 112/110S – Cold tyre pressure remains at 200 kPa.
Toyota Hilux SR5 & SR with VSC option grade 4x4 models fitted with 265/65 R17C 112 tyre size
have a front axle capacity of 1280kg.
Additional information is available on the vehicles actual Tyre Loading Information Decal or within
the vehicle’s Owner Manual under the headings “tires or weight limits”.
This axle loading specification supersedes the axle loading specification in the Repair Manual and
Body Builders Guide.
Please use this information to respond to owner enquiry on this subject

The load on either the front or rear axle resulting from distribution of the gross vehicle weight on both axles must not exceed the following.

2WD
single cab Frt 1145kg Rear 1750
extra cab Frt 1200kg Rear 1725
Double cab Frt 1200kg Rear 1550

4WD
all Frt 1280kg Rear 1600

ALTERNATE FRONT AXLE CAPACITY ( four wheel drive models only )

Where Toyota genuine accessories are fitted, such as a steel bullbar and winch combination, or for specific vehicle passenger / payload combination requirements, then front axle capacity can be increased as shown below

TYRE SIZE 225/70R15C
Front 1300kg

TYRE SIZE 205R16C
Front 1300kg*

*Cold tyre inflation pressure must be increased to 260 Kpa.


Hope this helps.

Steve

Bought a 05 Hilux new, when I had it on order a respected 4WD journo said as soon as I put the winch and bar on it and with my wife and myself in it the front axle will be overloaded.
He said cancel the order in no uncertain terms.
Should have listened to him as the front struts failed and collapsed out near Wanaaring.
Sold it and have not looked back.