Converting a 60 series wagon into a trailer ? Legally whats required ?
Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 05, 2012 at 18:22
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Hi to everyone. Old mate and I were throwing the idea around about turning an old 60 series wagon into an enclosed trailer, with windows. Can anybody help with what is legally required ? And also from an engineering point of view, How would you go about chopping off the front end level with the windscreen at the firewall. Sealing it and ceating a draw bar ? Would the rear axle/wheels be set to far back giving you to much towball weight ? We presume that because it's a landcruiser that it would be off road ready ? What are your thoughts on this one ? Thanks...
Reply By: GT Campers - Tuesday, Jun 05, 2012 at 21:43
Tuesday, Jun 05, 2012 at 21:43
yeah plenty of Holden, Mini, Escort etc pannos now being used as trailers.. and maybe even a few Hiluxes :)
Cruiser chassi may be heavy - might be worth looking at a new one
As mentioned, VSB1 has - and is! - everything
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Reply By: Fab72 - Wednesday, Jun 06, 2012 at 19:34
Wednesday, Jun 06, 2012 at 19:34
I'll be following this post closely as I've often thought about doing the same thing.
Saw an SS LXTorana hatchback once with a cut down SS LXTorana hatchback as a trailer complete with Hatch Hutch. It looked awesome.
Personally, I think the biggest issue is stripping weight out of it. I hope I'm wrong.
Anyway...good luck and keep us posted.
Fab.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Jun 06, 2012 at 22:49
Wednesday, Jun 06, 2012 at 22:49
Um yeh VSB1 wont tell you everything.
years go ther was a lot of this went on, ute chop trailers where reasonably common.
My broinlaw had a ford pilot ute chop trailer, the local buss operator had a chevy pick up ute chop trailer
One big thing is the weight.......by the time you get the body and the chaisis, it will be heaps heavier than a
well designed from the ground up trailer....both the above trailers where heavy as
then there is the ballance thing......the utes are general better distributed arround the rear axle......station waggons tend to have the axle more toward the rear of the body.
Chopping the body is pretty straight forward cut and shut exercise...one thaught if I havent already put you off is to cut and shut the rear of another body onto the front....doors front and rear.
As for the chasis.......the best option is to cut the chasis neard the front cut point and close the ends across with some channel and fit the drawbar in the usual manner.
As mentioned using an axle with adiff in it is very much frowned upon.
Remember you need to be able to justify the engineering.....load capacity of
the springs in particular
Seriouilsy the only reason you would do it is because you want the look.
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Follow Up By: GET ON ! - Thursday, Jun 07, 2012 at 21:09
Thursday, Jun 07, 2012 at 21:09
Hi Bantam, Yes I'm definatly doing for the look and for in my mind pure functionality, I see a solid complete body thats a hard top, has windows, opens at the rear and sides, has some insulation, and ventilation. for me I can open a door and get inside no matter what weather conditions are, as for packing up I would simply roll up the side awning close the doors and drive away. No canvas set up or pack up, except an awning. Now what I've learnt so far is that my best bet is to buy a shell only.[ it could be any wagon shell ], then fix it onto a heavy duty trailer chasis, [ this would be done by an engineer] and fit it out to my requirements. The engineer would close off the front to be weather proof,and ensure it is legal. ready to be road registered. when mounted onto the trailer chassis the trailer chassis wheels might not centre up with the wheel arches, but wiil achieve the right balance,covering in wheel arches is not a big issue. ... what do you think ? Any opinions welcome....
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Reply By: Horacehighroller - Thursday, Jun 07, 2012 at 15:18
Thursday, Jun 07, 2012 at 15:18
If I was going to do something like that I think I'd use a Mitsubishi Express or a Hiace or similar, preferably withOUT glass as it's very heavy.
The above I Ton vans would be favourably
well balanced over the axle, have a flat floor (other than the wheel arches), and be not much wider (if at all) than the 60.
Good Luck,
Peter
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Reply By: The Bantam - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 19:25
Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 19:25
Um the vans are even worse tha the stationwaggons....generally L300 have the rear wheels quite close to the rear of the body and hiaces are very similar.
I don't thing there is much to be gained in replacing the chasis....the majority of the excess weight in the the bodywork..remember trailers don't requre any impact stength or roll over capacity...but paseenger cars do
there would also be big advantages in using the existing chasis because of the sprining arangements because they would be far better than cheapo trailer industry crap.
If ya want an L300 body..I got one you can have.
BTW none of this needs "engineering" most of this stuff could be salf assessed and straight forward examination by a chair pollishing clerical type.
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