LandRover Freelander 2

Submitted: Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 15:23
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Hi folks,

I have a mate who is shopping around for a 4WD at the moment and he seems to have his heart set on a Landrover Freelander 2 (why I'm not sure). He doesn't have any 4WD experience as such but is selling his Subaru Impreza anyway and as him and his partner are tired of missing out on all of the adventures we are having in our Cruiser he figures that he may as well get a fourby and tag along. Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of this vehicle and would it be as capable (or more capable) offroad as say my Diesel Cruiser? He is looking at the 09 Petrol model.

Cheers

Craig
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Reply By: garrycol - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 15:30

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 15:30
Certainly not as capable as a "proper 4wd" but nevertheless quite capable. Does not have low range but its auto box and traction aids go a long way to making up for it.

If he wants better than Cruiser ability he needs to get a Discovery 4 or a Defender.

Garry
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Reply By: olcoolone - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 15:39

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 15:39
Like most new comers to 4wding most don't think they need low range.

The Freelander would have to be the most capable 4wd softroader around but it would be no match to your Landcruiser when the going gets tough.

Most dedicated 4wd tracks and properties will not allow a 4wd that hasn't got low range to be driven.

I find people tagging along with a softroader more a problem and a pain in the .......

The thing is you don't want to tackle a 4wd track and get 3/4 the way through and find you can go on but they can't.

Try and convince them into getting a 4wd with low range.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cruiser74 - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 16:41

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 16:41
Thanks mate, doing so as we speak!
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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 17:19

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 17:19
agree with both this and Gary - the other issue is the lack of clearance in the Freelander. Those loer body parts would cop a ding or two if the going got moderately rough. Disco or LC better.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 19:22

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 19:22
Noting that the Freelander 2 has better ground clearance than many dual cabs like the D max.
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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 20:03

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 20:03
Fair enough mate - I wasn't aware of that. I briefly looked into the possibility of a F/L for a time and noticed every review mentioned that "fact". Not surprising that they always highlight the "faults" in LRs. They still haven't reached the bar that Toyota have set for reliability but that doesn't make them not reliabl and they are certainly ahead on innovation. I only took a leap over to the dark side because I couldn't find a local mechanic who was competent beyond Holden/Ford/Toyota.

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Follow Up By: garrycol - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 21:07

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 21:07
You says Toyotas are reliable?? A myth in the minds of Toyota owners - lol
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Reply By: mikehzz - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 18:48

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 18:48
I have an 08 model with 130k on the clock. It is an awesome car and will go where ever it's clearance allows. Forget the petrol, the diesel is the pick and go auto not manual because it compensates for the no low range better. The terrain response is terrific. I don't know how much parts cost because I haven't had to buy any. It is by far Land Rover's most reliable car...the bar is low :-).. Mine has been in the Simpson, North Flinders Ranges, all the desert tracks and fire trails everywhere and guys in cruisers are always commenting "did you drive that up here?". I also have a proper 4wd with lockers but my FL2 has done most of the tracks the big one has done anyway.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cruiser74 - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 22:40

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 22:40
Thanks Mike, good to hear you have had such a good experience with yours. I'll be sure to pass this on. Cheers
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Reply By: mountainman - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 21:58

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 21:58
i had a mates friend buy one second hand, through a special lr dealer.
it cost him a fortune, something like 2 gearboxes, just about everything let go and more, but this is a couple of years ago.
nothing worked, kept breaking down, better off with a prado mate, IM telling YOU.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 22:14

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 22:14
Another mates, friends aunt twice removed type of story.

If it happened a couple of years ago it would still have been under warranty so would have been fixed, if it happened at no cost to the owner.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:09

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:09
The FL2 didn't come out till 2007 and there have been no gearbox issues that I know of and the boxes were all autos unil recently. As Garry said, they would have been covered under warranty if it were the case. The Freelander 1 had a few drive train gremlins and problems with the petrol motor.
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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 13:51

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 13:51
he probably has a mate with a tow truck who has pulled 3974 Land Rovers in over the past two weeks
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Reply By: Member - Cruiser74 - Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 22:43

Saturday, Jun 09, 2012 at 22:43
Thanks folks, I will send my mate a link to this thread so he can have a look at your responses. Much appreciated.
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 00:59

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 00:59
Some of the Freelander models had a iffy reputation for reliability. They weren't considered the pick of the LR models. Disco's and Defenders have a much better reputation, even among the LR fraternity.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:03

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:03
The Freelander 2 is a completely different model to the Freelander 1. The first version did have some issues for sure. The second version, named LR2 in the US to escape the first version's reputation, has no issues and has a better reliability index than Toyota in the UK guides. In my opinion, Land Rover were stupid not to name it LR2 everywhere to avoid the confusion.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:12

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:12
You are quite correct the FL2 is a completely different vehicle to the FL1 - however I have had a FL1 for 8 years and it has covered 270,000 km and is still going well - it has been one of the most reliable vehicles I have ever had.

Following your thinking, the FL2 should have been named the LR2 but also maybe the diesel Freelander 1s should have been called the LR1 and the petrol Freelander 1s given the Freelander name as it is the petrol versions that have given the brand a bad name.

However for what seems to be the intended use, a hi/Lo range vehicle would be better suited for use.
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Reply By: mikehzz - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:35

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:35
One last point to mention. Get one with 17" wheels if you want to do any off road. The 18" and 19" wheels are nowhere near as good. There are virtually no mods available, no lift kits, snorkels, bull bars etc. You are stuck with a standard car that you can only just put larger tyres on. Luckily, the car is a lot more capable than the likes of x-trails and rav 4's. It's mud ruts setting changes the dynamics of the transmission and allows for very good rock crawling. You do not miss low range in this car, you get pulled up by clearance before lack of low range. The diesel puts out 400+ nm torque on a light car, it will crawl up most steep inclines with ease. On road it is a very good drive. My wife has a bad back and dislikes the ride on most 4wd's but loves the ride on the FL2.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cruiser74 - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:17

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:17
Thanks again for the advice mate, I think he is still interested but is broadening his search to the Discovery range as well. Cheers
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 14:20

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 14:20
The Disco 3 and 4 are very good as standard off road and very comfortable. I have been out on the tracks with quite a few and they always impress me how easy they handle things.
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Reply By: happychap - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:30

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:30
I read some time ago that the LR2 was put through the same test track back in the UK as the Defender goes through.

The report said that it got through the track OK, the only difference being that the Deefer gets through the track more quickly.

Bear in mind though, that could have as much to do with the driver as with the vehicle. An inexperienced/ bad/poor driver can stuff up even if he has the most capable vehicle.

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Reply By: mountainman - Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 18:24

Sunday, Jun 10, 2012 at 18:24
yeah might of been the series one, but i know the guy as well.
just not a mate of his.
it was out of warranty.

but aftermarket stuff is more available to the bigger brands, bars lockers and everything else.
parts are easier to get.
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