New spot lights

Gday,
Its time to retire the old Rally 2000's and replace them with something better.
Im not sure if the lights are fading, the nights are darker or my eyes are getting old, but its time for something better.
I read a review on driving lights a few years back and the Lightforce light seemed a good choice, but that was a few years ago. Does any one know much about LED's? Are they worth looking at these days.
What are your thoughts on the best type of light these days for around the $300- $600 mark? Any good web links?


Cheers
Hairy
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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 14:16

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 14:16
hairy

There was a thread on driving/spot lights about 4 wks ago.

You might find the info you want in there.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 14:18

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 14:18
Thread 95950.

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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 14:48

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 14:48
Thanks Boo Boo,
Ive had a bit of a read..... now Im really confused. LOL
Whats HID exactly( I hear every body talking about them but really know nothing about them), what does a HID kit consist of and are they available for most lights?
Ive got a set of Rally 2000's on the front of the car and a set of Hella Jumbo's (the square ones) on the back of the roof rack. I also have a set of Hella Rally 2000 pencil beams in the shed???????? Maybe I try fitting a HID kit two one of them?????

Any one know what may be the better set up?

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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 15:25

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 15:25
Firstly mate, the LED lights are only glorified headlights really. They are extremely bright but only for 50-100m. And very expensive.

You can get DIY HID kits.

They are very very simple.

All you do is replace the halogen globe with a HID globe as normal.

Plug the HID globe into a ballast box, and then connect your existing driving light harness positive and negative into the ballast. Job done.

You will be amazed, and super happy.

What globes do the 2000s take? H1 if i remember correctly. Its a simple swap for someone of your calibre Hairy. You may need to drill a small hole in the light housing to route the HID globes cables out as they are a little thicker then normal and they have special plugs fitted already.

I have been playing with HID gear for years, and converted about 60 sets of lights at least. If you need any help or advice mate, fire away.

I suggest you keep the 2000s for now, fit a 55w HID kit (about $100 on ebay) and then decide if you really need to upgrade. You'll get $100 no probs for your lights anyway if you dont like them.

But i guarantee you will.

I can point you in the right direction too in regards to which kits are the best. I sold HID lights and kits also for over 3 years , so i know which are the real deal and which are just crap. I no longer do, but am still playing with HID gear .
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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 15:53

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 15:53
Thanks Muntoo....$100....thats the sort of stuff I like to hear.
Fire away.....what sort of kits do you recommend?

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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 16:29

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 16:29
Also.......why 55w when 100w seems to be readily available? Too much power? Brighter is better for me if there arent any down sides.

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Follow Up By: Muntoo - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 17:18

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 17:18
The 55w are by far the most reliable.

I only recommend 55w as the ballasts are alot smaller, produce less heat, cheaper, more reliable, less current draw and less hassles of reflector damage. Anything over 70w can damage reflectors if they arent metal.

The slimline 70w kits with a chrome ballasts are great. Thats what i use, and they are what i used to sell. The difference between 55w and 70w is hard to see with naked eye and anything over 70w is only needed with large lights over 220mm. Otherwise you just get a hotspot and no extra light. Glare off signs is increased also.

There are many sellers on ebay, reputable ones include 95soarer, and Newpro Tech. 95soarer knows his stuff and has sold ALOT of kits. Or Hidlightsdownunder.com.au is great also. Just put in hella 2000 HID kit into Ebay and then choose from one of the above. Stay away from the light5light mob but. Dodgy asian operators.

Just make sure what you get has Digital Ballasts, and a colour temperature of 5000k. 4300k is brightest though if thats what your after. But 6000k is too blue and loses intensity.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 17:56

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 17:56
Great stuff.........Thanks for your help!

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Hairy
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 18:48

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 18:48
G'Day Hairy,
Munto has given you the 'good oil' here.... suggest you follow his suggestion/advise & again dont go higher than 5000k as it will produce a light that will 'flare' back at you when it it hits reflective surfaces as in street signs.
I'm so happy I converted over to HID...... only nnegative is you dont get instant light when you first turn on....... but you learn to live with it.
Hidlightsdownunder.com.au gets mu tick for a reliable supplier..... hope this doesnt offend the moderator
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 19:00

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 19:00
I have the Newprotech kit and very happy with it. I only find the delay when turning on first time stone cold but do not even notice it when just dipping lights for oncoming traffic and then back on.
Biggest negative with the HID 's is because they are so bright when you dip them it seems very dark.....like driving with your parker's on
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 21:01

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 21:01
Agree re brightness, stick to 55w as yellow reflective road signs are bad enough with those.

Have one staight up pencil HID and one with combo lens that gives a bit more roadside light . . . not enough in close though, so planning on adding a couple of small 4 or 6 globe LED bars for in close side lighting.

Lol, yeah, when you dip the HIDs it's like, 'jebus, where'd everything go !!??'
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Reply By: J&V - Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 21:45

Monday, Jun 25, 2012 at 21:45
Hi Hairy, mate i concur with what everyone has said about the HIDS. I converted Cibie Oscars to 55w HID. I have two pencil beams and very happy with the result except maybe too bright. On a recent drive to Brissy, I found myself at times too busy looking so far down the road instead of paying a little more attention closer too the car. I think i will be fitting a LED bar also for the in close stuff.

But apart form lights, I am keen to know where you got the tub of cooked yabbie tails from lol (or are they blue marron)

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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 04:46

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 04:46
G day Hairy
I got Hella Rallee 4000 from Germany, on Ebay.
$310 or there abouts.
I have 55 Watt HID's in them and WOW !

Did I say WOW ...?
WOW again
Awesome, mate.

If you want all the info, then email me
Only too hapy to help

Cheers
Bucky



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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 04:55

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 04:55
Opps
Almost forgot !

Click here

Click here too !

I see that they have put their price up approx $100 as well
Trust me... you will be best with 2X spot/pencil beams...Spreads do nothing much

Cheers
Bucky
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Reply By: Jeff P - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 15:47

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 15:47
Hi Hairy you might want to check if its legal to use HID's because I think you will find that they are ilegal only legal for offroad use yes they are good lights but I hate people who are lax in dimming them !!!!
Jeff
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 17:58

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 17:58
HID driving lights are fine if they are connected with a relay to the high beam. What you may be referring to Jeff is HID inserts that replace the high/low beam are only legal if the car is fitted with light washers & electric headlight aiming. HID headlights in fact are now fitted standard to many new cars.
The problem with HID is poor quality lamps & inserts have too much light scatter & a good reason to buy quality like Quattro HID lights. These will make your Hella's look prehistoric Hairy ;-)
Cheers Craig.............
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Follow Up By: Jeff P - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 08:35

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 08:35
I will look into those Quattro HID thanks Craig
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Reply By: Axle - Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 19:12

Tuesday, Jun 26, 2012 at 19:12
G/Day Hairy


Hmmmm, Thinking its a age thing!, ...Not talking about lights.....LOL.


Cheers Axle.
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