Dometic rip off
Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 19:24
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Member - Andrew W14
I had a Truma gas/240V water heater fitted to my new van 2 years ago. Since then I have used it on 240V twice and it stopped working.
Turns out the circuit board (control PCB to be exact) needs replacing.
Dometic quote for parts only is $623.00!!!!! yes $623!!!! for a circuit board on a unit that cost around $1000 complete originally.
What an outrageous, obscene price for a spare part.
Never again will I go with Dometic!
Reply By: Member - Duke (TAS) - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 19:58
Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 19:58
Hi Andrew,
We have a Dometic front loading W/Machine in our van that is 3 years old. The 2 Bearings and 1 Seal on the main shaft have failed. Bearings are not a problem to get but the Seal is unavailable in Australia and Dometic say they have been on back-order for 18 Mths.
They have offered to supply me with a Drum and Shaft complete with Bearings and Seal off a new damaged machine for the sum of $250.00. Will cost in the area of $300.00 to fit it.
Will probably end up putting a new machine in when i get over to the East Coast which cost between $1100.00--$1300.00
Not a happy customer.
Duke
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Follow Up By: Dust-Devil - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 21:15
Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 21:15
What sort of seal are you talking about here. O ring, Square, edged O ring etc etc.
Why I ask is that there is a place in
Melbourne (Specialist Seal Place) where if they can't supply the required seal they are often able to make a replica of the original.
DD.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 22:12
Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 22:12
Duke! I guess you mean a mechanical seal for a pump, ceramic and carbon shaft seal.. Do a search for mechanical seals and you will find something for around $20. I recently refused to buy a seal for a pump at work for $380, i found one online for $18, fitted perfectly. I will try to find the name of the company tomorrow for you! Do you have any mechanical knowledge?? If its a pump seal, an hour or two should be enough time if you have a bit of gear. Where is Dometic made?? Ask them for a contact and tell them you will chase the seal up yourself if they cant be bothered.. that's unbelievable!! Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - Duke (TAS) - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 22:14
Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 22:14
Hi DD,
According to Dometic they are a special seal that stops the water from the machine getting into the front Bearing on the drum shaft.
Probably get one from CBC Bearings but they are an Oil seal and Dometic say they will leak after a couple of weeks.
They say its the first time they have had a problem with them. Do i beleive that,NO!!
Thanks for the info.
Duke
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Follow Up By: Dust-Devil - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 23:28
Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 23:28
Duke
'Special seal' unfortunately means bugga all in real terms.
If you can obtain a better description of this 'special' gizmo, I would suggest that it would be
well worth your time, effort and money to give RENSEAL in Dandenong,
Melbourne - (03) 9794-5711 - a ring and see if they have any suggestions.
I was chasing a quad lipped neoprene (square) O ring not so long ago, and CBC, Bearing Service couldn't help, however the dude serving me at Bearings did by pointing me to RENSEAL.
They actually had what I wanted in stock, but stated that if they hadn't then they would just make one for me. Apparently they do this for all types of seals all the time.
Regards
DD
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 14:34
Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 14:34
Hi Duke,
why mess with those expensive units when you can buy a cheap one and throw it out when it fails
Look at this
You can buy a few of these for just the repairs of the truma.
A couple of weeks back on these pages spmeone was complaining about the high price of any Dometic stuff and suggested they would never go near Dometic stuff again. Looks like that person was right on the money.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duke (TAS) - Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 19:50
Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 19:50
Hi Bruce C,
Thanks for the link, would have one tomorrow but would have to take to the Van with a Chainsaw to access the top of the Machine as ours is a front loader and fits in a fairly snug spot.
Don,t think Mum would be too happy if i did that.
Regards Duke
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Follow Up By: Member - Duke (TAS) - Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 19:54
Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 19:54
DD,
Thanks for that number, i have the part number for the seal so may give them a wring and
check it out.
Thanks again
Duke
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Reply By: Ross M - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 20:14
Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 20:14
G'day Andrew W 14
I have heard them called Trauma water heaters and I now know why.
With the circuit board, because of the low volume sales it will be expensive and if the company can milk it for all its worth they probably will.
I would suggest you contact an electronics person, repair store or enquire at a Jaycar store, who in the area repairs electronic equipment.
Because it will only be a thermostat controller sensed by electronic means it should be able to be repaired easily. It may only be a $10 part and the $623 is way out of whack with reality.
If you let us know where you are, people who are near or know a repairer close by will/may be able to help you.
There are retired electrical engineer type people on the
forum to help.
Ross M
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 14:40
Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 14:40
Hi Andrew,
There was a thread a couple of weeks back on the Truma water heaters for vans.
The theme was that they cost too much new and parts are exhorbitant.
They suggested a Suburban water heater and I can see why
Check this out
At the quoted cost of repairs I would be changing the brand. It would cost less to replace with something else than repair your existing unit, from the repair costs you quote.
Ebay also have a planar diesel air heater which is also a water heater.
Not sure how that works as I have not gone into it but may be worth your while investigating.
Cheers, Bruce.
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Reply By: KevKim37 - Friday, Jun 29, 2012 at 00:59
Friday, Jun 29, 2012 at 00:59
Hi Andrew,
As was suggested
check the heating element some do break so I have heard but most times if for some reason the 240v Power is turned on before any water is run through the system to purge air out, sometimes caused by water draining out i.e. leaks etc., the element can burn out as it is not covered with water.
This can also occur with other Caravan type 240v/Gas Hot Water Systems. If it is a Motherboard I have a few spare ones as I have had 3 systems replaced, 2 under Warranty and one tank under Warranty also. I also have a few spare elements because of above reasons.
These items were working fine as the problems I have had were mainly leaking Tanks because of splitting and the components are only a few years old.
Cheers Kev.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew W14 - Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 20:34
Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 20:34
A final follow up to all this.
After much frustration I contacted Dometic direct, with a somewhat strongly worded letter of complaint. The result of this is that they have diagnosed that the PCB board is NOT faulty, (bloody electrician doesn't know his a**e from his elbow I think!) and the problem actually is with a burnt out heater element.
Now whilst this should not happen, they have really no way of knowing how much I have used the unit, but have offered to supply a replacement at 50% of normal cost ($98.00).
I am happy with that offer and accept that they have in fact done the right thing and helped out.
Maybe I will consider them for future parts!!
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