2012 70 series LC70 engine question...

The oil consumption was a problem with some of the early ones,but it's pretty much fixed now. Haven't heard to much about the 70 series injectors, but the Hilux's have been a problem.
Agree with your sentiments about common rail though.
Not sure that all that you've heard is true, some of those prices seem a tad extreme. Just enjoy your wagon.

Hi Mat

First - the best place to get info on your new tojo is on the Lcool forum. Become a member its free.

http://www.lcool.org/forum/index.php

Second, you only hear those stories from people who don't own one. If you talk to people that own one you will hear some very positive feed back. I have the LC70 ute know as the 79 series, yours is the 76 series. Same motor and basic design but I have a tray behind the drivers seat you have a station wagon setup.

Now most of the car is the same as toyota has being making for the last 15 odd years and proven in the field as one tough 4x4. Whats new is the motor and I believe the have got this right as well. A great motor. Heaps of power, good fuel economy for its class, and very reliable.

The issues you say you heard - fuel pump going - not a toyota problem I have heard in the 4 years I have owned one of these V8s. With any car if you give it water mixed in the diesel you can do serious damage but that is not specific to a GXL 70 series that is something that can happen to any common rail diesel.

Injectors are expensive but very reliable. You can buy them from ebay at around $500 each (which is a normal price for any common rail injectors) and then a small fee for toyota to fit them. Mostly you will have trouble free running from your injectors for about 10 years.

Burning oil - some early models (before dash air bags) had a problem with oil consumption - only some.Mine was one of them, just started using lots of oil at 15000km. Took it into toyota and they fixed under warranty - faulty formed lip seal on the scavenging pump in the sump. No problems since. You will hear some problems with the 200 series using oil - that is a different situation with a similar motor but different setup to the 70 series.

Electronics is one of the best things toyota have done. I have not heard of any electronic issues. Not to say it can't happen but I am a member on Lcool and read toyota stuff regularly and have not heard of any electronic issues.

Get an exhaust - and do it soon. Maybe run it for 3 months to get used to your new beast and then get one. I have not bothered with a chip as I am comfortable with the power and toyota don't approve of you chipping the motor.

Hope that helps

Cheers

Serendipity

I know a sample of one isn't representative but, we / my husband has had / still has one from 2007/08 & had zero problems.
I have a new one.

this is really funny

back in the early 2000s non toyota TD owners weretalking of FTE electric controlled pumps failing with 12k repairs

so the 6k difference in all these stuffed pumps is a bargain considering inflation over the last 10 years

We just had one totally destroyed at the prison. The service was not done quite correctly....something to do with the pipework in the sump for the oil pump.

Repair bill of $21k for a new motor....ouch.

They were going to update the fleet for more comfortable transportation but will now need to keep this last one to make it cost effective.

BW

Some people who don't own one have a friend who has lots of problems, but for some reason people who own them love them and have never heard of some of these problems ( eg the fuel pump problem).

IGNORE any advice given to you unless that person actually owns one.

As said above check out Lcool.

I don't know about owning one but the RACQ agent in Coen told me about one he had to recently fix for $12K AFAIR. This was last year.

The problem is like any common rail diesel, that of water in the fuel which destroys the pump and injectors.

The only difference to other common rail diesels is that there is more of everything in a V8 and Toyota prices are very high if you cannot get aftermarket stuff.

The other design problems that I have heard of are that the labour cost to replace the starter is about $1000-1500 because the starter is in the middle of the V and all the manifolding and injection must be removed for access, but this should not be an issue under 160KK.

So it is more an issue of contingent liability once they get older .

I can say that the mechanic in Mataranka and all the cockies that were there when I was there with my Rangie with dirty fuel, Just Looove the old 6 cylinder turbo and were not impressed with the V8. And that area is 99% Toyota.

Regards Philip A

Thank you all for the prompt replies, I feel very reassured indeed.... I won't be chipping it anytime soon as the power is more than enough for me at the moment (and I know that'll void warranty for sure) but yeah I am keen on an exaust with a strong note to it, so to speak... Mind you it already sounds NICE!

Anyway my beef with electronics isn't Toyota specific... I just don't like the idea of being in the middle of the desert and having an electron go astray inside an enigma of electrical circuitry and binary in an expensive computer hanging off the side of the engine causing a break down in communication between vital engine components. A computer that's subject to extreme cold, extreme heat, dust and mud and water... And something that's way to pricey to keep as a spare....
I work on buses and we got a number of brand new scanias (which I see to be not such a good brand from my experience) but they've had problems out on the road in their first trips due to software and electrical problems... Only things like lights and interior functions and door/brake interlocks but my point is, it's all controlled by computers! And when something busts up you can't just point a test light at a fuse or power this and that up from an external power source cause you're likely to fry something else! Your little $10 test light has to be then transformed into a $10000 Computer and diagnostic tool.

I went for this model cruiser because like someone here said, all the driveline and everything is proven equipment! And also it has no bs like ABS and traction control or any of that crap. Don't get me wrong they are very helpful in certain situations, but to me they're just another unnecessary safety "necessity" to "reduce" the road toll... My boss has ABS in his patrol, out on the track he needed to hit the picks at some point, he hardly slowed! Why? Because the ABS wouldn't allow any wheel slip! He then unplugged it after that endevour...
I got in quick because Toyota told me ABS will be standard in this model in August... And yeah, not interested.

Sorry again for my rant, another question, anyone experience the Toyota electric diff locks? I'm getting them and am keen as beens to see what they're like.... I am PUMPED! Lol!