2WD around Oz
Submitted: Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 17:25
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lj_eco
Hi,
Sorry and thanks to those who replied to my first thread, i can;t see how to find your previous posts but i would like to thank those who's replies i saw in my email.
I wanted to ask about 2WD'ing around Oz. I drive a falcon wagon. I take it most
places a 4WD will go, only limited by clearance normally. Dont imagine it will do much good along
places like the
Birdsville Track though.
Got 6-7 months off end next year. Want to see as much as i can within reason. Easily traverse the centre up to
Darwin and take in Macdonnel Ranges, Uluru etc along the way. But what about out of
Darwin (
Litchfield Kakadu) and across through the Kimberlies and coastal WA down to
Perth? As far as i can tell theres black stuff, but imaging i'd end up frustrated not being able to get off the stuff, is it right? What are the dashed line roads on the map off the black stuff like over there?!
Suppose i could just hire a four-by in
Darwin and stuff to do around there.
Anyhow, thoughts suggestions from community most welcome!
Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 18:41
Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 18:41
Hi lj-eco
While there are many roads than you can travel with a 2wd, we choose to go outback. While we don't often need engage 4wd, this has been necessary on several roads, and more often, high clearance has been needed.
There are adventure tour 4wd coaches that cover the
Gibb River Road and
places such as Jimjim and
Twin Falls in
Kakadu.
Rural roads in agricultural areas are
well maintained for all vehicles, but roads such as the
Gibb River Road (in particular depending on the depth of water crossings), and some of long inland dirt road routes in the Northern Territory may have patches you would have difficulty with.
It would be feasible to drive around with your Falcon, and take commercial tours in key locations. When hiring a 4wd for dirt road use, you can expect to be paying higher fees than when the hire agreement is black top only as most are.
Motherhen
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Follow Up By: lj_eco - Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 20:31
Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 20:31
Yep, agreed and after looking at the road conditions for some of those
places, hire 4WD definitely the go for the special spots. I remember hiring 4WD some years ago on a fly-in fly-out conference up north (only had a half day to cruise around) and they said stay on the black stuff. Did take it off and came back via carwash. What sort of premiums would they charge if you said 'i'm taking this to
Jim Jim Falls'!? Just flicked an email to AVIS but their website isn't the best design for customer online inquiries. if i hear back i'll let ya know
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 01, 2012 at 14:37
Wednesday, Aug 01, 2012 at 14:37
I sometimes winder about the mentality of that...
"We're happy to rent you a 4wd at great expense, however stay on the black stuff..." - one would be tempted to ask what the point of hiring an expensive 4wd is then....?
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Reply By: The Explorer - Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 19:14
Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 19:14
Hi
Your previous tread is here
Got 7-8 months - around Oz?
Re: comment "I take it most
places a 4WD will go" - please send videos! it will be a great watch :) Just kidding - I think you mean you go
places people with 4WD's also go (e.g. shops:), any type of gravel road with a bit of sand and the occasional
rock). Lots of
places you actually need "4WD" (broad definition), though having said that some people do exagerate degree of difficulty of some tracks/locations so many "4WD" destinations are easy as...good to see some one having a crack at it - thats the main thing. Have fun.
Cheers
Greg
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Follow Up By: SDG - Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 19:29
Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 19:29
Did a lot of Kosiosko, and
Vic High country in an old LH Torana. Mate that travelled with us was in a HQ station wagon
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Follow Up By: lj_eco - Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 20:40
Saturday, Jul 28, 2012 at 20:40
Think the roads marked '4WD only'. I go!
I do drive a 4-by for work and have the advanced training that gets some good use out in the high country behind
Canberra, so i guess i just use the basic principles, and know the limits of the wagon!
most fun one recently was up one of those rocky dry riverbeds in the northern
flinders ranges. Few guys coming the other way stopped to see if i was mad ;-)
Done a bit of bulldust/deep sand, don't mind the sliding around like a 'tinny on the river feeling'. just never been really remote under those conditions.
And yeah, i agree... gotta have fun! But know ya limits! If i had the house paid off and retired (which will hopefullly happen ONE day!) i/'d go and lash out on a decent reliable not too-
old truck. But as far as i can see, for under 10-grand ya looking at 90/'s model 4-runners with 400,000 plus k's! Ick
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Reply By: lj_eco - Sunday, Jul 29, 2012 at 18:56
Sunday, Jul 29, 2012 at 18:56
I guess i'm simply coming to a somewhat better informed version of the idea that i came here to this thread with. Can be done, don't 'need' but better with 4x4. And not just a soft-roader, but something with high clearance.... if you want to get to those few 'best spots'.
Looked at the cost of hiring for a 6-7 day venture into
Kakadu, at least $1300 before adding any higher premiums for being on dirt (always baffled me that one about hiring 4x4).
If i hired 3 or 4 times in different
places i'd be half way to a beaten up old 4x4 already.. maybe this thread should have been 'if i want to buy a cheap used 4x4 what should i look for'! Assuming diesel is way to go for longevity on that front.
Is a shame, but part of the adventure i guess.. that you can do 90%, but to get to 'those spots' you do need it (high clearance 4x4). That's ok, i do enjoy my work 4 wheeling be nice to have it for the weekends too i suppose!
Thanks for all the thoughts so far all
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Follow Up By: SDG - Sunday, Jul 29, 2012 at 20:52
Sunday, Jul 29, 2012 at 20:52
Nothing wrong with the older Landcruisers, or Patrols. I would prefer them anyday over some of the newer ones. Still plenty of good ones around
well under 10grand.
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Follow Up By: Member - eighty matey - Sunday, Jul 29, 2012 at 21:07
Sunday, Jul 29, 2012 at 21:07
There's plenty of petrol 80 series Landcruisers around for under $10,000 at the moment.
My mate averages around 20 litres per 100km fully loaded on big trips, my diesel 80 uses average of 15 litres per 100 km.
Don't worry if it's got 300,000km on the clock because it'll be good for another 200,000 km at least.
It's worth considering.
Steve
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Follow Up By: lj_eco - Wednesday, Aug 01, 2012 at 14:05
Wednesday, Aug 01, 2012 at 14:05
Actually browsing on carsales and have to agree there's some decent old beasts out there. Kind of got me a bit excited to be honest.. i'm presuming the average user would expect 500,000km out of these things!??
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Follow Up By: Member - eighty matey - Wednesday, Aug 01, 2012 at 22:45
Wednesday, Aug 01, 2012 at 22:45
I have a diesel 80 series that has just done 404,000 km and is still going strong.
On Saturday we're heading off with two mates to do a 13,5500 km trip across the Centre to The
Kimberley and back.
The other two vehicles are petrol 80 series. One has done over 550,000 kms and the other has about 330,000 km on the clock.
The 550,000 km one has just had the gearbox reconditioned bcause it was running with no oil in it for a while.
These vehicles are prety much bullet proof. We load them up and head off where we don't see anyone else. We don't baby them and they take a lot of punishment.
We've climbed mountains and crosseed rivers over our bonnets, then when we head
home down the freeway it's like driving a car, a big car.
My diesel averages about 15 litres per 100 km, the petrol Cruisers average about 20 litres per 100 km. That's cruising at about 100 kph carrying about 3 tonne all up.
It's definitely worth considering an 80 series.
Steve
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Follow Up By: Member - eighty matey - Wednesday, Aug 01, 2012 at 22:50
Wednesday, Aug 01, 2012 at 22:50
Ps,
I should have added;
heaps of room, good clearance and spares can be sorced in remote areas.
Steve
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