improving the signal for my laptop ....

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Hi all, i am chasing up how to get a better signal on the USB thingy that connects me to the inernet, i tried the antennea with the "patch" cord, it does not physically plug in rather has a velcro strap that wraps around the white bit and was useless ............
And i have the extra long extended usb cable but looking for better ...
Is the ANY that actually plug in with anantennea ???
Must be Telstra sorry.....
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Reply By: Member - Julie P (VIC) - Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 20:26

Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 20:26
What shape dongle have you got - mine is Telstra - sort of shaped like rusk - at the top end (opposite to the plug in usb bit) there is a little thing that opens, revealing a plug hole - plug patch cable into this. Partner also has Telstra dongle, but more square in shape - at the opposie end to the usb plug in bit, there are two small removable covers - the patch cable plugs in there -
can't see how just wrapping around would work -

Sorry my explanation isn't very technical - but hope this helps.

If it doesn't work - go to your local Telstra shop, or where you bought the antenna from - get them to help you.
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 20:40

Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 20:40
Hi Julie,
This is mine, i cant find any plug, i also live a long way from any telstra shop so that rules that out .....
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Follow Up By: Member - Julie P (VIC) - Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 21:15

Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 21:15
Are there any little holes around the blue bit of the dongle? who said to wrap the velcro around the white bit - can't for the life of me see how that would work!
Apart from the above, can't see any other way, than asking a phone shop, or where you got antenna from, or ask some teenage kid, they seem to have all the answeres to technological issues I have found.
Good luck!
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:24

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:24
Not wrong about the kids hahah no there is no plugs and by the later answers it is an early one so looks like time to up-grade .....
Thanks for the replys to eh :-)
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 21:13

Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 21:13
Hi Joe etc.

As you have discovered the "passive patch lead" that work on induction are a complete waste of $ and useless............like you appear to be we rely totally on wireless broadband with Telstra.

All we have is wireless Next G and I made a small Yagi to improve our reception and it is now very stable...quite suitable for on the roof or a pole on the side of the 'van

There are also some excellent omni directional antannae that RFI make (from 6db , 7.5 db abd 9 db)..we have then all for travelling as the terrain decides which one to use

If your dongle takes a patch lead it will be a microscopic socket well hidden behind a tiny little slide or weak looking little plastic tab that takes a bit of prizing open

If I am correct in looking at yours it might be an earler one that did not have the patch lead capability

Check this Telstra website to identify the dongles that have the socket

https://bigpond.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/14224/related/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xMjg4ODIyMTM3L3NpZC9OdGp2dThlaw%3D%3D

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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 21:19

Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 21:19
dont know why you got two of my posts!

forgot to add dont worry about the Bigpond / Telstra thing..they are identical just depends on who you purchased it from......

inside the back cover you will see the actual type of dongle....usually a ZTE or a Sierra
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:26

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:26
Yep Graeme it is an early ZTE one, no plugs ..... it is time to up-grade ,,,,,
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 22:49

Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 22:49
Any phone accessory shop should be able to give you advice. You don't need a Telstra one. Keep going around the local shops until you get some satisfaction.


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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:33

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:33
My local shop is 500klms away :-)
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 23:42

Friday, Aug 03, 2012 at 23:42
Hi Joe & Mel,
unfortunately, the modem you have does NOT support an external antenna. I have the same unit. Works fine with direct line of sight to telstra tower, but not too good outside of that. I use a long USB cable to get height; but be warned, make the cable too long and it won't work well anyway (due to voltage drop - which is (volts that is..) already very low.
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:27

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:27
yep exactly what i have done, long lead ...... time to up-grade...
Thanks Fred
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Reply By: Member - Wamuranman - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 07:44

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 07:44
Hey Joe,

AS someone stated above the model you have may not have that capability.
I have just recently purchased a 4G one- its grey stripe where yours is blue.
ON the side there are 2 tiny plastic flaps where an external antenae can be plugged in.
Our van has a Next G antenae on the roof as part of the TV entenae.
The problem was finding a patch lead to go from Next G plug inside van to Telstra USB. I spent weeks trying all places (Telstra shops, Dick Smith, Jaycar etc etc) without success. I eventually got one made up by a small communications business I found in an industrial estate.
I am still astounded as to why it was all so hard to get to work. These things should be just plug and play with all the right leads and connections...but they are not.
BUt all is good now....can get internet to work in some remote free camps using the Next G antenae to bbost reception.
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Follow Up By: Hilux fan - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 14:27

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 14:27
I also have a Telstra 4G modem for home use. Mine is also 3G compatible and has 2 aerial connections. I got my external aerial and connector lead from Telstra, so I don't know why they couldn't supply you with one. One thing I found with mine is that I can only get signal when the aerial is connected to a particular port, not at all in the other one. I suspect one port is for 4G and one is for 3G, so if you get one of these you may have to swap the connector around to get a signal.
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:32

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:32
you are not wrong about the whole thing being so simple yet it is so bloody hard to get what ya need ..............
OK i am going to buy what ever i need for the BEST signal, that is from the "dongal" USB thingy to the adaptor if needed to the antennea and lead.....
It needs to be 3G as a min as i dont think 4G will work out here, at least 3G is everyware there is a signal ...
Any sugestions please ?????
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Follow Up By: Member - Wamuranman - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 17:19

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 17:19
Its true Hiluxfan that Telstra has them on their books as an item. But I was looking in June and both Telstra shops had none available and were not restocking until the new financial year, Too bad as we were were leaving on a trip before the end of June.
Joe I would get 4G USB as it automatically reverts to 3G when 4G is not available.
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 18:49

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 18:49
good point, i will do that..
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 10:41

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 10:41
I am sure it is as I suspected your USB does not have the socket for a patch lead....If you really need to get a good reception when away from normal signal strength you may have to consider updating your USB dongle..

We use the Ultimate here at home and the Elite.... also use both for travelling and have achieved excellent results a long way from a tower.............its all about the suitable antannae connected to the dedicated patch lead

Trouble is trying to talk patch leads and antannae with Telstra or most outlets is a waste of time simply becuase they all think we live in little red brick houses in cities and based on my experiences most of them haven't a clue what your talking about!

Have a look at the mob below for the current Telstra USB dongles..naviagate around the site for patch leads.......they are a very helpful firm

http://www.mobileextras.com.au/ProductList/tabid/64/CategoryID/32/Default.aspx

No affliation etc with this mob but I have dealt with them remotely and always had satisifaction simply because they specialise in those of us outside the cities in rural and remote locations



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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:39

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:39
Thanks heaps all for the replys and advice, i have to buy a new set-up, that is fine......
So what is the BEST i can buy, that is a complete package from USB thingy to plug to lead to antennea .......
If someone could give me partnumbers would be excellent .... NEEDS to be 3G as 3G works where ever mobile signal is, 4G is better but not available here ....
Oh and must be Telstra ....... (Sadly)
If you are a shop on this site and can provide the complete package i will buy it :-)
Many thanks all
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Follow Up By: Hilux fan - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 18:18

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 18:18
Joe,
My setup was the Telstra 4G/3G modem. I got it from Telstra as part of the overall plan. The aerial is a Comnet 11dbi Yagi with a Comnet patch lead ZTE MF633 USB. Antenna and patch lead cost $190 from Telstra. The antenna only comes with 6m of lead. If you need more, as I did, it's another expense. The patch lead fit into the modem is very tight because of the protective plug and you probably don't want to pull it in and out too often. When you connect it all up, you may not get a signal at first as there are two aerial connection ports in the modem. If at first you don't get a signal, swap to the other connection. Even the Telstra help line weren't aware of this one.
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 19:03

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 19:03
thanks heaps for that, i will follow it up, makes it 10 times better with the part numbers ...............
Guess Telstra are not aware of that cause ya dont need an antennea in India hahahahah
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 19:19

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 19:19
Joe its time to upgrade, that thing you have is ancient!!

I just bought one of the new 3G/4G Mobile WiFi 4G devices on a plan, the device cost $50- it has the capability of plugging in two patch leads in the bottom to take two external aerials for full 4G coverage when its available.
I used a single multi band aerial from RFI mounted on the bullbar for 3G coverage, it only requires the duel antennas when used in a 4G area and that will only be in major towns and cities at the moment.

The Telstra device is a wireless hot spot allowing you to connect 5 devices via wireless network to it.
I got a patch lead from a seller on Ebay.

The system is brilliant and I was surprised at the places I got great coverage on 3G and the speed. was awesome!!

Being wireless we could sit by the fire and the device was mounted in the car and we had web access 20 to 30 meters away from the car.

Here are the links.

Mobile Broadband Devices

RFI Antennas

Patch Lead

If you need any further info just ask, happy to help.

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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 20:49

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 20:49
Thanks John,
I kinda like the wirless idea actually, i can then have it based in the van/car and sit outside ... and dare i say it ... facebook me heart out hahaha
What does the WiFi unit run on, 240 or 12v ??????
Does it stand alone or is it plugged into a computer via usb to run the WiFi thingy ??
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 21:26

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 21:26
Completely stand alone Joe.
You can download an iPhone application to your iPhone that will actually allow you to monitor and alter settings wirelessly whilst sitting beside the fire also ;)
Great technology, easy to use.

I have also provided the link to the actual manufacturer of the device, Sierra Wireless in the USA for more details.

It comes with a 240V charger but I bought a 12V charger from the mob in the link below.

The wireless hot spot base works well as it will allow several users to access the web as they please.
My partner was able to just pull out her iPhone even as we traveled and could do her email and Facebook etc.

Its the best set up I have had, we just left it plugged in and set up permanently and soon as it received a signal we had coverage.

I used a RAM mount to hold the unit in the car so we could see it as required. Link Below also.

12 Volt Charger for Wireless Hot spot

RAM X - Grip Holder

Sierra Wireless 760 Hot spot

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Follow Up By: Polaris - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 21:36

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 21:36
Hi Joe n Mell

We use a Bigpond Elite Network Gateway.
At home it is stand alone and powered by a 240V plugpak that came with it. It can feed wireless to up to 5 stations. At home my wifes computer, my laptop, daughters netbook, wifes iPad and iPod all connect.

It was fortunate that the supplied plugpak output 12V to the gateway - so I made a power cable to run it from a ciggy lighter socket.
In the vehicle it is connected to a 6dB external antenna on the bullbar.
Means the iPad and iPod can be used online while mobile and in a 3G area. Very few dropouts from Melbourns to Cairns.
The modem stays permanently in the vehicle and the ciggy socket is powered from the AUX battery. Had to do it that way because the normal ciggy socket only works when the key is on. Not sure how far the wireless works but it is fine for using a laptop inside our caravan or annex.
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