Pajero

Submitted: Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 15:46
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Hi Alll
Have been looking at 3.2 t/d auto Pajero's
Just wondering if there if anyone has a comment regarding them , good or bad.
I do a fair bit of off road camping, but nothing extreme, and am looking for a reliable 4wd to take me through till I give driving away ( I am near 61). So Looking for a good 4wd that will do me up to 15 yrs.
Seen a few good ones, at a better price than Toyota, so just wondering.
Thanks for your help, Dave
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Reply By: Member - Gordon T (NSW) - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 16:26

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 16:26
We are 65 and have a 2010 NT auto T/D Platinum purchased new - now has 60,000 kms and no trouble - good for highway and off road also towing a camper trailer. Good fuel consumption and good ride and can handle some rough stuff. Know of guys like us who are on their 3rd or 4th Pajero. If I was buying again, I'd go Paj without hesitation. Look for one of the limited edition models as you can get good extras like upgraded headlights, rear air lockers etc. Ride/suspension is a little soft for rough off road work and towing so we fitted 2 inch lift with upgrade shocks and springs and rear airbags for towing.
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Reply By: Member-Heather MG NSW - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 16:27

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 16:27
Hi Dave,

We have one and are happy with it...have done almost 28,000kms since we bought it new last September.

Not sure whether you intend towing anything but just be aware that although it can tow 3 tonne, anything which weighs between 2.5 and 3 tonne is limited to having a 180 kg down ball weight. Kinds of limits what you can tow as we have discovered...

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Reply By: joe r - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 16:35

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 16:35
Hi Dave I am a Toyota fan as I believe that they are more reliable than the pajeros ,mine is a 2000 model petrol auto that has just (12 months ago) taken us for a 2 year trip around oz . Our only trouble was 1 flat ,and we towed a van .Twice we spoke to pajero drivers who where having problems with thier auto transmissions .they where both towing vans
Another concideration will be the running costs I service mine myself (except timing belt service at 150,000klm) . towing my Jayco Eagle at a steady 90klm I get 13-14litres per 100 klh and without I get 11-12 litres per 100klm at 100klh
Hope someone can give you more info on the Pajero
Cheers
Joe
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 19:51

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 19:51
Er joe you say you are a toyota fan, but dont actually state what toyota you are driving.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: RobAck - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 17:48

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 17:48
We see lots of Paj's come through our training and on tours as well and I think they are pretty under rated. Very competent out of the box and with a suspension lift and decent tyres are as good as anything in the right hands (read you have been trained by someone). Apart from that if you can find a second hand one with the factory rear diff lock grab it as it is an excellent option and well worth the few dollars if you purchase one new

A long range tank is really not necessary unless you want to do the Canning. There are plenty of other options for additional fuel

Regards

Rob
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Reply By: madfisher - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 20:01

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 20:01
Hi Dave,
as you know I am a Jack fan, but a while a go a Cust hired one of our large Pantechs for a week and asked me if I would mind running his 3.2 Paj into the yard of a night. Ea morning I would start it and drive it around the block to park it as we are short of yard space. Anyhow this Paj had 280000ks on it, started perfect eac morning and I was amazed how well it drove.
When he returned I guized him on the Paj, and he said he had had a great run , with very little trouble.
Also we run Prados at work reliable, but awfull to drive in my opinion. Same driving Dynamics as a 50s yank tank, anyhow recently I had a drive of a near new Paj, and o boy their is no comparsion, no float, handled like a car and felt much smaller. Having said that I had better head for the hills before the Toyota brigade come out guns blazing LOL
I dont think you can go wrong mate, they have the best rep of any of the later diesels.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Member - Myles F (QLD) - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 20:45

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 20:45
G’day Dave,
I’ve owned both brands and currently have a 100 series I wouldn’t swap for anything. Having said that, I reckon the Pajero is a very under rated and capable 4wd. I recommend the Pajero.
Myles.
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Reply By: Priscilla G - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 20:51

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 20:51
We had a 2010 Prado,accidently went into a Mitsubishi car yard 4 months ago & walked out having ordered a Pajero NW.Better tow capacity,smaller vehicle in size but suits us .Big price difference so got to expect that some things are not quite Toyota standard.It,s a Platinum & had the spare tyre lift & not much else had to be done.We tow a 21ft (not off road) van.
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 21:19

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 21:19
Owned 2 Paj's 1st one was a 2002 petrol which we sold @ 190 000km, no problems
Current one is 2007 diesel with 220 000km on it, no problems again.
Most of the NS models had problems with ECV valve (or something similar) for which there was a factory fix.
Like all vehicles there are good and bad, but Paj, Prado and Jackaroos are excellent vehicles, Jacks are getting a bit long in the tooth and Paj V Prado verdict is very much dependent on strengths and weaknesses of each vehicle (whether each vehicles strength/weakness is important for you).

But to your specific question, we have been very happy with our two over 400 000km and chose them (new) as we thought they offered better value for us.

Mark
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Follow Up By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:22

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:22
Hi Mark, thanks for the feedback.
I currently own a Jackaroo, and as you say, they are getting long in the tooth. I would love to keep mine, but need to look to the future, as I mention in a reply further down this thread.
Cheers, Dave
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Reply By: mountainman - Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 23:14

Saturday, Aug 04, 2012 at 23:14
friends pajero with the did 3.2.
timing chain let go, and needed to find a replacement motor.

and a few of the electrics were going hay wire. sensors, solenoids.
doctors car, soo not short of money but damn peice of crap!.

landcruisers arent cars, solid built vehicles to go the distance.
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Reply By: Rockape - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 06:45

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 06:45
Dave,

One thing I have noticed is more and more property owners are using them for their highway vehicle. I think that tells you something.
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Reply By: dean e - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 09:39

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 09:39
We saw more Pajero's in the Simpson this year than any other vehicle, go figure. Every highway and every town the numbers were obvious, some towing some not. For the money you cant go wrong but do upgrade the suspension including airbags if towing or carrying heavy loads.
DE
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Reply By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:25

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:25
Hi Dave

We bought our 2004 NP 3.2 DiD in 2007 with 72,000 on the clock - specifically for van towing. Only modification was a set of King Springs to stiffen the back end for the weight. Other than that it is unmodified.

Previous owner had racked up greater than normal k's on trips north but kept vehicle serviced and good nick.

It now has nearly 190,000 k up and the only problem experienced to date was a starter motor failed after 160,000 k.

So far towed across to Qld 2008 15,000k round trip - two x 10,000k hauls to the Kimbeley and Terriroty, plus probably further 30 or 40 more thous round this great state of ours without a hitch. (Initially a Coromal Silhouette then to a 20ft Supreme Spirit)

Have owned many makes of vehicles over 50 years and can't fault this one.

I don't take on 'extreme' tasks but not concerned about a bit of rough going.

Good luck with your choice

regards - Phil
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Reply By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 15:59

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 15:59
Thanks for all the comments, looks like a Pajero might be my next vehicle.

I realise that all vehicles have their faults, but if you can get a general consensus (good or bad),from like minded people, then it gives you a fair indication.

I should have mentioned that the ones I have been looking at are 2007 onwards, the NS or NT model. I also should have said that I tow a van, but it is an Avan Cruiseliner with a all up (loaded) rating of 1300kg, so not really an issue. It has the 'Adventure Plus' pack, which makes it as off road as an Avan can be, but not a serious off roader by any stretch.

Thanks again for all your help, Dave

P.S. Young fella at work just dropped a timing chain too, and had to replace his motor.... in his Commodore.

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Follow Up By: i'machocoholic - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 18:58

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 18:58
Hi there,

Another vote from us for the Paj.

We completed nearly 18 months around Oz in an NT Auto, and have just come back from a 6 week trip up the Tanami and through the Kimberley. We spent some time with a friend who had an 80 series Cruiser, and we went everywhere they did without any issues.

On a side note, we were surprised that when we came off the Gibb River Road and heading from Derby to Broome, we passed around 15 Pajeros in one day. They are definitely becoming more popular with van drivers especially as they have the 3 tonne towing capacity and you've got all the comforts with some good torque when required off road.

Here was our set up for our trip if it helps:

Our Vehicle

All the best with your selection.

Linda.
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Follow Up By: mynance - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 20:07

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 20:07
I have an NT DID Pajero and tow the same van. I have been to Lawn Hill and Fraser as well as quite a few local trips.
Quite a good set up but needs mods to the tow hitch to allow you to open the rear door.

Myles
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Follow Up By: patsproule - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:00

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:00
Try if you can to get a later NT without the DPF (early NT still had it). The later ones dropped it and just went back to a Cat convertor. You'll fine they are a bit better in the economy stakes because they aren't pouring fuel in every so often to do a DPF burn. More horsepower in the NT too, a beefier transmission and they fixed the inlet manifold where it blocks the MAP sensor orifice. Timing chain issues were in the NM / NP models so nothing to worry about and can be avoided by swapping a $25 part anyway. The DID is otherwise bulletproof albiet quite noisy compared to most other 4 pot diesels. All you need to know over at the pajeroclub forums.

Pat
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Follow Up By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:55

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:55
Hi all
Thanks for the great info!

Myles, what mods were required for the tow hitch? I use a Trigg off road hitch, and it is quite bulky, might cause me problems.

Thanks for the info, Dave

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Reply By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 20:01

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 20:01
Hi Dave,

Take a look at thread # 89120.

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:51

Sunday, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:51
Hi Wilko
Thanks for the heads up on that, an interesting read.

How is the Hilux going for you?
Cheers, Dave
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Follow Up By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Monday, Aug 06, 2012 at 13:17

Monday, Aug 06, 2012 at 13:17
Hi Dave,

I'm dissapointed in the hilux in 3 areas.

The clutch is just a clutch, They arent as good as they should be.

The power and torque isnt near its opposition.

It doesnt come with freewheeling hubs.

Other then that its going ok.

Cheers Wilko
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