Laptops & Mobile phones

Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:19
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I am planning an extended trip around Australia.

Can anyone help me with advice on the use of laptops and mobile phones to access the internet and the relevant costs involved. I would like to use internet banking and emails. I have heard that the cost is prohibitive.

Any advice would be welcome.

JohnG
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Reply By: Member - Andrew O - Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:52

Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:52
John,

Normal internet download costs range from 5c - 19c per megabyte. Over a wireless network, these are around 10c per kilobyte - damn expensive by comparison. You'll find that most centres will have internet cafe's, (I've found them in Innamincka, Tibooburra & Angorichina (flinders)) either privately run or government funded, you could use one of these. Another choice is to wait until you can use a fixed phone line, Bigpond have a single phone number for national access at local call costs.

Remember, you're on a holiday and supposed to be getting away from it all!! :)

Cheers
Andrew
So much to see, too little time ...
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 01:17

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 01:17
Andrew,
I'm interested in that single Bigpond number.
Can you point me to a reference on Bigpond's site.
I assume you need some special account/contract to use it?
Any info welcome, speed etc.
Thanks
Doug
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The Welshmun & The Witch
setting off in 2004 for 2+ years
in '93 Series 80 & Dream Camper
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew O - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 09:52

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 09:52
Doug,
I'm pretty sure its any Bigpond account. I use the business grade service at work, and the phone number is 0198 3nn 3nn. The BigPond site implies that a normal residential customer can access from almost any fixed phone for the cost of a local call. Maybe just phone and check it out. I suspect any of the bigger ISP's would offer a similar service, however I know bigpond is available in all telstra call collection areas.

CHeers
AndrewSo much to see, too little time ...
Andrew
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Reply By: Notso - Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004 at 12:00

Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004 at 12:00
Hi,

I did this three years ago on a round Aus trip. We used telstra Digital. Back then I used a Xircom PCMCIA Modem with a cable connection to a Nokia 5110. It worked fine and the longest time away from email was about 8 days up around Karumba on the Gulf.

I had a $50.00 plan but because i just love to communicate I reckon I averaged around $120.00 per month. The speed of the connection is 9.6 kbps as opposed to 56 on your home modem.

Tell all your friends not to send graphics to you, Do group emails so any graphics you send only go out once.

I set up an old mate the other day with a Nokia 6385 CDMA and his laptop and it works fine for him, still the same slow speed but uses the Infra red Port. So a bit less fiddling around to set it up.

Enjoy
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Follow Up By: KiwiAngler - Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004 at 16:40

Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004 at 16:40
Just an aside. I too have a Nokia 6385 CDMA and IR. Spoke to a guy at Telstra's WAP/INTERNET division yestaerday to see why I couldnt get the 14.4kbs that someone mentioned they got in an earlier post. Evidently because I am connected via a pre-paid connection I dont get the access to the faster data rate that the Nokia 6385 allows. He did say however that all Nokia 6385 that are connected through the Telstra system via plans, automatically can access the faster baud rate. Didnt ask any more questions as I dont intend signing any fixed plans.
The point of my posting is to highlight that if your mate is connected via a plan he should be able to get the 14.4 kbs rather than the 9.6kbs.
I would check to see what the maximum rate he has set on his computer for that dialup, some ppl dont check and it defaults to 9600bps and by just resetting it to 14400bps you get the faster rate.
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Follow Up By: Scott_G - Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004 at 23:41

Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004 at 23:41
you cannot get higher speed than 9600 bps with infra red
nokia cdma are crap
you dont need plan to get 9600 bps you need a cable not the infra red
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Follow Up By: KiwiAngler - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 18:18

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 18:18
am not sure what your qualifications are to make such black and white statements and I admit that mine are only from talking to others.
However your statement 'nokia are crap' I will ignore, as I am sure the millions of others around the world who use Nokia will.
Your statement that you 'dont need a plan to get 9600' is not what I said.
Suggest you re-read my reply....what I said was along the lines of ;you cannot access 14400 when using pre-paid, or conversely you can only access 14400 using a plan...at no stage did I say that you need a plan to get 9600bps....talk to the techos at Telstra (as I did, especially as I am NOT an 'expert' real or imagined) about whether 14400 can be obtained when using pre-paid....I will be interested to see if you get the same answer that I did.
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Follow Up By: Scott_G - Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 18:47

Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 18:47
KiwiAngler the Nokia CDMA phones are unbelievable crap. Just ask the dealers how many returns and repairs they have had. I did not say anything about the Nokia GSM, it was the Nokia CDMA phone I am talking about. Besides the faults and repairs of the Nokia CDMA phone, their range is substantially less than any other CDMA phone and what is more they have no external aerial plug. I will repeat for you seen you are a kiwi, the Nokia CDMA phones are crap with a capital C Crap.
CDMA by default is 14,400bps and if you are using infra red the maximum speed you can get is 9,600 bps regardless of anything.
I dont care about the techos at Telstra you spoke to. Unless you speak to the people at Telstra in Fax & Data you are likely to get bull manure.
The people at Telstra in the Fax & Data division are excellent and I have dealt with them since the inception of the GSM network.
KiwiAngler I will always answer anything as the information I provide is always 100% correct in every way.
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Follow Up By: KiwiAngler - Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 19:35

Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 19:35
Quote #1 "..they have no external aerial plug." ...incorrect..I have a Nokia 6385 CDMA plugged into a 6db external arial...so according to you, I must have poked the $35 patch cable which is attached to a $129 aerial attached to a ARB bullbar, through a non existent external aerial plug

Quote#2: "Unless you speak to the people at Telstra in Fax & Data you are likely to get bull manure"...I did...it wasn't

Quote#3: "..The people at Telstra in the Fax & Data division are excellent "... I thought that too...thats why I quoted them as my 'expert' source as I don't profess to being one :-)

Quote#4: "..KiwiAngler I will always answer anything as the information I provide is always 100% correct in every way"...refer to my response to quote#1

also with capitals...ALWAYS 100% CORRECT IN EVERY WAY

I will respond to you because you are NOT a Kiwi ...ppl who comment in absolutes often leave themselves open to correction, and are often wrong

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Reply By: Lyds - Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 15:07

Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 15:07
If you don't need to email everyday then I'd be using internet cafes - they're all over the place in pubs, caravan parks, travel agents, coffee shops etc almost in any town that has a smell of a tourist.

If you try using the internet over your mobile you'll paying big bucks for a frustrating experience.
Cheers,
Stuart
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Reply By: Member - Mike (SA) - Saturday, Jan 17, 2004 at 11:30

Saturday, Jan 17, 2004 at 11:30
JohnG,

I have just returned from an extensive trip. Advice above is correct. I found Internet cafes only reasonable however. I have Bigpond dial up connection and using "My-mail" from cafes very very slow to download and often dropped out.

Most members in my group relied on text messaging using CDMA which is now available in virtually all centres we drove through (WA and SA). I didn't, but will next trip - I was impressed with its versatility.

regards

MikeToo little time in the bush!
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