spare wheel lifter

Submitted: Monday, Oct 01, 2012 at 23:31
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I met a nice old bloke who needed a way to lift his caravan spare wheel assembly onto the back of his van.

Its an offroad van withhigh clearance and an offroad wheel and tyre so it wieghs a fair bit.

We thought of a small boat winch bolted to a frame that is welded to the rearbumper of the caravan.

Any ideas out there.
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Reply By: Member - Judy and Laurie - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 06:51

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 06:51
Hi, when we were out travelling only a couple of weeks ago we saw just that a guy had a small winch on the back of his off road camper with a swing out arm and a sling to put around the spare to lower it down . At the time I thought it was a good idea giving the weight of the spare
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 06:53

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 06:53
JT,
A simple lifter like you suggest is relatively easy to make but be careful which boat winch you get. Most are designed with a ratchet system that works when you are winding in but free spool when not engaged. This can be quite dangerous when lowering a heavy wheel and can get away from you. There are both hand and power winches for small loads that are quite cheap and have the ability to control the out as well as in.

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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:37

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:37
Have a look at this previous thread Heavy Wheel Lifter You will have to look through it for what you need because it is a combination of actually lifting the spare onto the spare carrier and lifting a wheel when changing it.
I made one for my van using galvanized water pipe and a spare wheel winch from a ute. I had to replace the chain with a longer one. My wheel and tyre is about 40kg.
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 09:03

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 09:03
I have seen a lifter on the back of a van that interested me.

It consisted of an "A" frame supporting the spare, pivoting from the lower end such that it could be swung down and the spare simply lifted or rolled off. When swinging back up you are only lifting half the weight of the spare and also do not have to fiddle to align it with the mounting studs.

It was fabricated from 25mm square tubing.

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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 12:01

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 12:01
Probably similar to the commercial one shown in the previous thread I mentioned in my post above.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 12:13

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 12:13
Yes, as in the 1st and 2nd of the photos in your link Rod.
Not identical but very similar.

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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, Oct 03, 2012 at 15:30

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2012 at 15:30
Allan,

I have an OBIECO on the back of the canopy on my 40 series. Good bit of kit. If you're interested call these folks

http://www.obieco.com.au/obieco/

they're very friendly to deal with - they don't show the wheel lifters on their web page (as they were created to a Telstra spec) however they're happy to sell them.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Oct 03, 2012 at 17:54

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2012 at 17:54
Thanks Scott. I typed a long response to you but when I hit 'Submit' it began loading then the ExplorOz site dropped off the radar......yet again!!!! Sometimes I despair of the vagaries of this site!!!

Anyway, thanks mate, however I don't need one for the moment.

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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:45

Thursday, Oct 04, 2012 at 09:45
For those interested, the Obiecos were about $400. See this previous thread Telstra style Spare Wheel Carrier
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 09:27

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 09:27
Hi JT,
saw this guy who had rigged up 3 large hooks, a couple of pulleys and some 10mm rope as a lift system. He put one hook and pulley onto the spare wheel, a hook on either side of the roof rack (one with pulley). Two minutes to set up, he had a counter weight (a 10ltr water container) and another 2 minutes had the tyre onto his roof rack with another 2 minutes to pack up.

Very simple, portable and usable anywhere. Can be used at the back or side of the vehicle as well.
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Follow Up By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 21:18

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 21:18
I too need a 'helper' to get my spares onto the roof rack.
Fred, could you do a quick sketch and post it as a jpg?
I just can't quite get a mental image of how the pulleys and counter weight go together.
I was going to put a slide against the roof rack rail and pull the spare up that from the other side of the rack. This is probably easier.

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Follow Up By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Wednesday, Oct 03, 2012 at 14:51

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2012 at 14:51
Hi Bill,
can't find original hand sketch I did when I saw it over 2 years ago. Will try to reconstruct it in head and on paper... not so easy or simple as I originally thought... lol... Will work on it as I need one myself.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 03, 2012 at 16:52

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2012 at 16:52
If you want to go high tech, check this one outRoof Rack Crane
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Reply By: J.T. - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 17:22

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 17:22
Thanks for all the responses.

We'll get one of the above sorted. If we go something flast I'll post it up for you to see.

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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 17:29

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2012 at 17:29
The winch is 5:1 with a clutch to stop over run when lowering. It can be driven with the wheel brace or a good battery drill and is fixed in position under the curved tube 'gantry'..
The cable runs up through the inside of the curved tube which pivots to each side so suit either wheel.
The wheels weigh 80kg each.



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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 04, 2012 at 10:46

Thursday, Oct 04, 2012 at 10:46
This thread has prompted me to do something also. Spoke to a bloke yesterday who is making our steel side steps. I can pull a tyre up etc but cannot dead lift it.

The idea is to make up a removable inverted "L" system out of square steel tubing with a pulley that sits above the wheel and is mounted on the back of the wheel carrier.

The "L" consists of two parts, a one foot long piece of 1" x 1" section steel tubing that is bolted or welded to the wheel carrier and the rest of the "L" made from the "next size up" tubing that slips over the 1" section. A single pulley is hung off the top of the "L" and the tyre is lifted with a rope through the pulley. I cannot give pictures as it's not made nor even sketched as yet.

I am gong to get the actual "L" made from two pieces so that it can be taken apart and stored easily.

Put two strategically placed stirrups on the rope and you could "walk" it up by just stepping in the stirrups and pushing down and then the other one. This needs a little more thought. It may need two pulleys. Hmmmm.

Phil
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