Re-gluing the headlining in a Troopy
Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:10
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Member - John and Val
Hi All,
Has anyone successfully re-glued the headlining (ceiling) in their vehicle?
In our Troopy the lining consists of a perforated plastic membrane with sponge rubber backing, glued directly onto the metal roof. In our case, the backing has come away from the roof around the edges and needs to be reattached. One problem is that the headlining has warped/stretched/contracted and there’s really no way of clamping it in position while glue sets. For this reason I planned to use contact adhesive (the stuff you apply separately to both surfaces, let it dry for half an hour then press them together hopefully in exactly the right place) BUT I found that the solvents in the glue dissolve the plastic headlining. Fortunately I’d done a test patch before starting on the main job!
Any suggestions as to how to proceed? Is there a
water based contact adhesive? Any ideas will be very welcome.
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John
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:26
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:26
Well I've answered one of my own questions - Is there a
water based contact adhesive? Yes, probably on the same shelf in Bunnings as the solvent based ones.
Any better ideas will still be very welcome.
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John
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Follow Up By: hazo - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:53
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:53
Hi John
Forget Bunnings, go to a flooring
shop or vinyl supplier and get some of their glue, they will probably sell or give you a small amount as it usually comes in 20ltr drums.
Most flooring contractors carry it around in their trucks all the time.
Cannot remember the name as I've been out of the game for a while, but there is a white emulsion type that is applied liberally and allowed to "tack off" then you push together and an instant grab of the fabric or vinyl etc.
It does not give of strong toxic fumes or vapours and once stuck it is stuck!
Brian
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 13:01
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 13:01
hi
trade it in john
would you keep wearing an old hat if it was disintergrating around your ears
lol
if the lining has shrunk inwards from the outer edges i very much doubt even if you are able to stick it back with what-ever that it will stay in place for long
as the tension on the material and variations in temperature will eventually make it break -away in the not to distance future
clark rubber may have a suitable glue for that type of foam backed lining
barry
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 14:43
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 14:43
Hi John,
I replaced my headlining in the Troopy a couple of months ago. It was still
well attached but had some tears and missing bits. I purchased some
grey headlining material with foam backing from Clark Rubber together with their recommended contact adhesive. Rather than a vinyl surface it was a close-woven fabric. As the original was still
well attached I opted to apply the new over the old. It finished up a first-class job and a better appearance than the original. The material costs were not great.
Your existing foam backing may be disintegrating so it may be best to remove the old headlining before applying the new. Just scrape off any lumps of stubborn foam with a paint scraper. Any residue that is still
well attached to the steel could be left in place.
I removed the front steel cross-member and firstly glued only the central 80% area, leaving the oversized sides. Then trimmed the sides to size and glued each one in turn tucking them at the edges and under the cross-member which is above the headrests. Being a woven material it stretches readily and can be easily moulded into the rounded corners.
If you would like, I could mail you a scrap sample. Just MM me.
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Reply By: Member - Michael P (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 15:09
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 15:09
John Hi,
A friend had the lining in his Disco replaced for under $200.00 recently.That was here in Bris.
To my way of thinking a much better way to go. Guess if you have to factor a 1785 Klm drive into the deal it is another matter.
Regards
Mike.
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Follow Up By: patsproule - Thursday, Nov 01, 2012 at 06:41
Thursday, Nov 01, 2012 at 06:41
Wife's Freelander recently dropped it's lining too. I tried re-gluing it but it was a bit of a disaster (and I'm quite handy). Having a fresh lining professionally refitted was all of $250 at the local upholstery
shop so we ended up doing that. Given that the Freelander has a ridiculously complex shape to the roof lining (storage
bins etc) I'd say the troopy would cost a lot less to do.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 15:26
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 15:26
Thank you everyone for your thoughts. Have now looked more closely at the underlying cause of the trouble - the basic issue is deterioration of the foam, and that will no doubt continue, so replacement looks a far better way to go. Clark Rubber don't mention headlining in their online catalogue, but a phone call got the response "We've got it in stock - did my Landcruiser a couple of months ago - looks great."
So I'll go that way and do it properly. Thank you too for the offer of a sample Allan, but I'll commit and go straight to the local source.
Cheers
John
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Reply By: Sludgie W.A - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 19:51
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 19:51
Hello John, for $300 I had a upholsterer reline the entire roof with carpet similar to the drawer system. looks better than the original and cuts down the sound a bit.
Sludgie
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Thursday, Nov 01, 2012 at 09:59
Thursday, Nov 01, 2012 at 09:59
Or you buy a Troopy with it already done. He He
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Reply By: thecjcs - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 22:01
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 22:01
Asked that very question today regarding our 2001 ute. Motor trimmer says that the old lining will 'leech' the glue - so best to have it redone. (The ute costs 130 with new foam and lining and fitted) I know this is different to a Troopy - so good luck.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 22:23
Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 22:23
The term is actually "leaching" and it can be wise to apply an anti-leaching primer before the adhesive is applied to PVC containing plasticiser.
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Follow Up By: thecjcs - Thursday, Nov 01, 2012 at 05:31
Thursday, Nov 01, 2012 at 05:31
leech! (that's a funny slip up and conjures up all sorts of weird images) I stand corrected.
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Reply By: Phil 23 - Monday, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:52
Monday, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:52
A Sprayable contact adhesive is the best solution.
Doesn't soak through the lining.
I got a few litres from the local upholterer, you can thin it to suit a spray gun or you can also get it some
places on pressure packs.
Used regular contact gel first on the roof & hard surfaces the sprayed a light coat on the fabric.
Successfully done a head lining as
well as light moulded carpet in a boat.
On the floor I used waxed paper to prevent it sticking ing
places I was not ready to deal with till towrds the end of the job.
Cheers!
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:19
Monday, Nov 05, 2012 at 08:19
Again, thank you everyone for your helpful suggestions. I've now, after only a few days, managed to remove all of the old gunky material back to clean painted metal and ready to start installing the new stuff! (No-one mentioned this dirty tedious bit of the job!) Starting to wonder if paying a few of hundred dollars to someone who knows what they are doing wouldn't have been a good investment....... still, if all goes according to plan the job will look really good.
Thanks everyone.
Cheers
John
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