Monday, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:38
Hi Joel
We have sort of similar issue and our camping style is minimal so we would never even take a second battery.
Since we now drive an auto we need a means to recharge battery in case of accidents and also power lights, stove, various battery chargers etc around
camp.
Our solution was meant to cover all reasonable possibilites.
Basically we carry one of those 18AH gel cells in its own little alcove near back of the car.
Now you may think this isn't enough but trick is to make battery always charged without thinking about it and to use the battery by exception.
I.E. As far as possible we just use cars main battery for powering everything.
We keep a 10m 12vdc extension coord which tends to allow the cars battery to be used a lot of the time.
The gell cell battery has a 50amp anderson plug on it which can mate to one on the cars battery.
This solves the accidental discharge of main car battery problem.
It also has a cigarette ligther plug & socket on it.
The gel cell can be left at
camp as required and only occupies 1/2 space of the jump start units.
Now trick is the more or less automatic charging of gell cell in such a way that it doesn't get overcharged.
To do this we put a 12vdc socket onto the cars accessories line near where the gell cell is stored and just plug it into the gell cel - which is its more or less permanent
home.
Now this charging lead is fitted with a diode such that the gell cell is always being charged whenever the car is going or accessories are on.
When car is off, the gell cell and things it powers will never discharge the cars battery and overcharging is prevented by diode and length of wire to the gel cell.
Just getting a little more subtle the diode is a special type which effectively lets the gell cell reach its full charge (more details if interested).
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Monday, Dec 10, 2012 at 14:23
Monday, Dec 10, 2012 at 14:23
Hi Robin,
Sounds a good minimalist system. There are a few subtleties here that are worth pointing out to anyone following your example.
I assume that you are using a schottky diode to minimise voltage drop. (There is a voltage drop of at least 0.6V, and when carrying significant current, up to 1.0V or more across normal silicon diodes. The loss across a schottky diode ranges from about 0.15V to 0.45V under similar conditions.)
Robin's other subtlety is the use of a gel battery, not the more usual AGM type. Gel batteries charge at slightly lower voltages than wet vehicle batteries, while AGM's usually require more voltage than the vehicle battery. The combination of a schottky diode with a gel battery is a good way to go for a low power system and might suit Joel's application very
well.
Cheers
John | J and V
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Monday, Dec 10, 2012 at 14:32
Monday, Dec 10, 2012 at 14:32
Your right on
John.
Jaycar part ZR-1029 is a 7A schottky at a cost of $1.50 (2 in parallel recommended) in this application.
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