Tyres for 3.0lt Patrol
Submitted: Thursday, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:52
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Flatdog
Looking at fitting a set of 265/75 16 BFG mts on a 3.0lt Patrol, i tow a mid size boat a lot say 600kgs. Will these tyres affect low down torque enough to be a pain?. Should i stick with the 265/70/ 16.
Cheers Geoff
Reply By: Mark - Thursday, Jan 22, 2004 at 12:13
Thursday, Jan 22, 2004 at 12:13
I have 285/75 Cooper ST's on my 3.0TD GU Patrol. I also tow a 1.6T offroad van. Very happy with the tyres, but at say 1000rpm there is a lack of power taking off uphill with the van on.
But, the tyre size makes only a 7% difference in gearing, not enough to make up for the low engine power at those low revs. Need a dtronic to make a notable improvement at those revs - Santa forgot
mine this year :(
As for legality, the Ti came out with 275/70R16 so my understanding is that the 285's are legal here in WA. But would do it anyway!!! The gains offroad of the 33" (285/75) tyre compared to the standard 31" (265/70) are huge. But if only onroad, then no real advantage of a bigger tyre.
Cheers
Mark
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Follow Up By: joshinthecity - Thursday, Jan 22, 2004 at 14:31
Thursday, Jan 22, 2004 at 14:31
Yeah, what he said.
I have same truck, with same sized rubber. and I can vouch for all of what Mark has just sead.
Josh.
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Follow Up By: 10 Para- Sunday, Jan 25, 2004 at 19:48
Sunday, Jan 25, 2004 at 19:48
So what would the gains be for a chnage from 275/70R16 to the 285/75R16 and can you get 275/75R16 which would seem to be a good size all round, having a look at the coopers tires they dont do that size why is that.
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Follow Up By: Mark - Sunday, Jan 25, 2004 at 23:00
Sunday, Jan 25, 2004 at 23:00
A 275/70 is a smaller diameter than a 265/75, something like a 31.5" compared to a 32" tyre. I have not come across a 275/75 in a brand/type of tyre I would like to get, but it would be approximately a 32.5" tyre if made.
There are already so many different tyre sizes I suppose a manufacturer simply estimates whats more popular. The beauty of a 275 is that its the same width as fitted to some models of patrols, hence few legal issues.
The upside of a "70" profile is marginally better handling at the expense of ride softness. The downside of a "70" profile is that there is marginally less benefit when lower the tyre pressure (lb for lb).
I personally would prefer a 265/80 if it were made. Its a 33" tyre, but without the wider width that I personally do not favour. I looked at the 255/85 Cooper ST, but it looked too skinny.
If only the tyre manufacturers made every permutation of tyre sizes...
Cheers
Mark
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Follow Up By: 10 Para- Monday, Jan 26, 2004 at 08:05
Monday, Jan 26, 2004 at 08:05
Hi Mark i aggree that is my point, on the Cooper Tire spec they have a 265/75R16 which is 10Ply with a load of 1550Kgs and then go to a 285/75R16 which is 8Ply with a load of 1499Kgs both in the STT with the ST being about the same, now i would also prefer a slimer tire as it woul handle the sand better, not so much to push and pull through and the same foot print lengthsways which counts, and a little higher to get the roll over.
i hear that there is a new coopers on the way the STC this one is suppose to stop the chipping of the ST i wonder if they will bring out a 275 in that model it out in May so will be around the time i want to change.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew(WA) - Thursday, Feb 05, 2004 at 00:51
Thursday, Feb 05, 2004 at 00:51
Flatdog
For what its worth.....
I have just finished a 3 month trip around the country in my GU 3.0 2002 Manual.
I towed a van.....around 1500kg most of the way.
Prior to leaving I put Cooper 265/75 in the LT 8ply on the car, replacing the crappy Bridgestone 265/70's.
My experience was that the car had a noticable drop in low down power...off the mark, and towing was made more difficult because of it. Economy also suffered.
Not the sought of thing you notice as you drive away from the tyre
shop, but after a bit of stop start stuff in traffic conditions, I found myself slipping the clutch more than before.
After getting half way around the country I actually looked at putting the 70's back on in
Townsville but stood to loose to much on the Coopers. Nothing wrong with the coopers, they performed very well with excellent wear, hardly look like they have touched road.
I did
Fraser Island and can say the bigger tyre on the sand was fantastic. I did the whole place at 24 pound in some extremely soft stuff......she cruised through it.
If you have an auto it would be a different story.....the torque converter would take up the difference without you knowing, I would guess.
cheers
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