Caravan bottoming out
Submitted: Saturday, Dec 15, 2012 at 20:16
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Lifethics
I have a new van and a very steep driveway and the rear of the van scrapes the driveway. It is a square box type van.
Any suggestions as to how I can drive in and/or out. Tried various heights with the tow bar but no luck. Thought of making a trolley and have it ride under the rear drop down/wind down legs/supports. Is this a bad idea?
Appreciate suggestions
Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Saturday, Dec 15, 2012 at 21:47
Saturday, Dec 15, 2012 at 21:47
Your suggested solution might cause severe van damage, in that asking the rear end of the van to temporarily support weight that the road wheels normally carry is way out of spec. You could damage the chassis or at least over-flex it and damage the van's body structure. As for the drop down legs - even if the chassis could take weight there, the legs are not designed to carry much at all - they are not 'jacks' - and if they were to snag, they might damage more than themselves (mountings). How about temporary steel plates across the driveway's low spot to lessen the angle when moving in and out ? BTW - I have seen the whole of a down-sloping driveway made level with a steel beam and ramp structure (like some retail car yards use to elevate and feature a vehicle) - the 'levelled' space was used for
parking a larger van....I only mention it, to illustrate the idea of temporarily remodelling a driveway.
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Follow Up By: Lifethics - Saturday, Dec 15, 2012 at 22:55
Saturday, Dec 15, 2012 at 22:55
Hi Darien, You confirmed what I thought but did not want to admit it. i am a bit worried about spending $$ on ramp stuff and finding what I get does not work. The wife just cam in and suggested for a trial get 4 or so pallets and see what happens. Ummm! I like your steel plate idea and I am sure that will work .. just need to find some. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Dec 16, 2012 at 00:05
Sunday, Dec 16, 2012 at 00:05
If the rear end of the van is scraping and you can pull it out OK as things now stand, you are not removing much weight from the main wheels. If you were carrying most of the weight from the main wheels you would not be able to pull it in and out. I see no problem with small wheels under the rear of the van to take the abrasion of the chassis.
Have a look
at these. I suggest the model DNQ75G /DZF may be suitable.
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Reply By: Ross M - Saturday, Dec 15, 2012 at 22:33
Saturday, Dec 15, 2012 at 22:33
G'day Lifethics
You could use two small low profile hydraulic jacks with a spreader plate at the top to spread the load and by placing the jacks between the axle and the chassis you can raise the height of the caravan to give more clearance. Make sure, if you have shocks, that the shocks are dropped off at the lower end so the temporary raise can be done.
Works on both independent
suspension and beam axle too.
If a dual axle apply to the axle which will give the most beneficial amount of lift. I would imagine it to be the rear axle but depending on the profile of the terrain you may have to use the front axle.
You must make sure no point loading is applied to just one spot on the chassis though and the spreader will have to have some serious consideration as to it's strength and profile. Possible a heavy angle iron spreader which has a deep side wall.
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Follow Up By: Lifethics - Saturday, Dec 15, 2012 at 23:07
Saturday, Dec 15, 2012 at 23:07
Hi
Ross, spent the last 3-4 hours searching the web to find ideas. About 95% are the same sort of idea but your's is the first with this idea and with the right configuration could do the job. My van has AL-KO independent
suspension with telescopic shock absorbers so that can't help here. Perhaps there is another way to look at it... I will look in the morning.
Thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony (ACT) - Sunday, Dec 16, 2012 at 06:11
Sunday, Dec 16, 2012 at 06:11
Maybe change the shocks for the pump up type, increase the pressure to lift the van to get into the drive,
Drop back to a lower pressure when on a trip.
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Reply By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 16, 2012 at 09:58
Sunday, Dec 16, 2012 at 09:58
You probably don't wan t to admit it but your missus' idea has merit.
Our local garage has a steep entry angle and most modern cars scraped their bottom and nose going in and out.
He laid a concrete 'plank' in front of the gutter (on the road) and that provided enough lift for the cars to stop scraping. Wasn't very high and the cars just rode up a rounded edge and spanned
the gap between the gutter and the road. No water blocking as there was a gap in the gutter.
Try her idea with different thicknesses of board one day by moving back and forwards and watching the height at the back of the van.
It can be left as a permanent solution.
Bill
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Follow Up By: Member - Jerry C (WA) - Sunday, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:59
Sunday, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:59
Have you considerd reversing the van up the drive ? As the distance between the van axel centre line and the rear end will be somewhat shorter than the distance between the van axel cetre line and the tow hitch. Yes, you may still have to lower your towball height, but not as much.
If it works then you can mount a tow ball on the front of the car which will be easier than reversing.
Good luck. Jerry.
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