Toyota Diesel Servicing?

Submitted: Sunday, Apr 21, 2002 at 00:00
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G'day! I am considering selling my LandCruiser 100 RV petrol and updating to the new turbo diesel intercooled model.

During a discussion with a few mates I was told that the Toyota diesels have to be serviced every 5,000k's of normal driving or every 2,500k's if you are towing or doing continuous stop start (traffic?) work.

I don't like the idea of having the vehicle serviced in Melbourne, towing the caravan to Alice Springs, and having another $200.00 service due! Is this the case or am I ill informed?


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Reply By: Goran - Sunday, Apr 21, 2002 at 00:00

Sunday, Apr 21, 2002 at 00:00
Peter,Lancruisers 80 and 100 series have to be serviced every 5000 km according to TOYOTA manual.
It is advisable (not nessesery) to replace oil and oil filter about 3000 km if the vehicle is brand new, due to motor being tight as most diesels are.Also that way you will get rid of all metal shavings deposited in oil while motor is running in.Use top quality diesel oil(cheapest insurance for longevity)and never change oil without replacing oil filter.Once you clock 5000km you can go for 5000km without servicing, no worries at all about towing.Keep to spead limit don't rev up the motor too much while is new.Remember use top diesel oil.
Hope this helps
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Follow Up By: Peter - Monday, Apr 22, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, Apr 22, 2002 at 00:00
Thank Goran for your reply. My concern is that this being the case then I will not buy the diesel, instead buy another petrol model, as the saving in fuel is more than offset by the extra service costs involved. I believe the two engine have similar life expectatacy and there is nearly 9 grand difference in price between petrol and diesel models! I think the petrol model will be around for a while yet! Cheers!
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Reply By: Ken - Monday, Apr 22, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, Apr 22, 2002 at 00:00
Hi Peter, You are ill informed, 5000k services do apply to naturally aspirated older diesels but the new generation of hi teck engines from Toyota and other manufacturers are much cleaner running and less poluting 10000 and even 20000 k service periods are now the norm. I am quite shure that Toyota's turbo diesels are now 10000 k service periods Please check with your dealer for confirmation Regards Ken.
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Reply By: Goran - Monday, Apr 22, 2002 at 00:00

Monday, Apr 22, 2002 at 00:00
Peter, regardless of what the dealer will say all diesel motors currently in Toyota and Nissan production line need to be serviced at 5000 if you want your motor to last 500.000km or more as it should.Without going into mechanical debate let me just say that most of the manifacturers of 4x4 with direct diesel injection recomend service at about 10.000km, for other reasons, not because they are that much cleaner burning.Dont ask the dealer, ask a reputable diesel specialist.
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Reply By: Ken - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2002 at 00:00
Goran, I am going to take you to task here! I am a diesel mechanic and specialist 4x4 repairer with ove 30 years experience.I service and repair most makes of vehicle including the current range of di turbo diesels.The main reason for 5000k oil changes on the old engines is oil thickening due to soot after 3 to 5 thousand k when cold the oil can be too thick too be pumped around the engine as simple as that , this does not happen with the newer engines,I Find that oil in the new di engines after 10000 k still looks clean ,there is no conspiricy by the manufacturers.Dont forget that direct injection has been around in heavy trucks, tractors and industrial equipment for fifty years or more and service periods have always been much longer than 5000k ,try 25000 for trucks and 250hrs for industrial which equates to about the same kilometers.These engines are expected to and do have life spans of over 1 million kilometers with this type of service schedule.Previous jap engines [indirect injection] are of a very antiquated combustion process design mainly for quieter running A system that was dumpded by U.S. and European designers in the nineteenfifties! They are dirty running engines,hence the need fo mor frequent oil changes. Regards Ken.
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Follow Up By: Goran - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2002 at 00:00

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2002 at 00:00
OK Ken, if you say so mate.It is just that i heard different story.At least i have learned something here.
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Reply By: Ken - Wednesday, Apr 24, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Apr 24, 2002 at 00:00
Sorry Goran, did'nt mean to come on heavy I it is just that I have always been disapointed at the Japanese diesel engines, it seems that they are only now doing it properly, I think the need to compete in Euorope where 25% of motor vehicles [excluding trucks] are diesel powered, and diesel emission laws are very strict is the driving force. Regards Ken.
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Follow Up By: Kevin Phillips - Wednesday, Apr 24, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Apr 24, 2002 at 00:00
Ken, do your comments and disappointment also apply to the current model GU Patrol 4.2 TD which is indirect injection?
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Follow Up By: Ken - Wednesday, Apr 24, 2002 at 00:00

Wednesday, Apr 24, 2002 at 00:00
Yes Kevin I am afraid that they do. The 4.2 GU turbo is basically the old twelve or so year old eng with a turbo strapped on the top I concede that they are reliable,bullet proof and as honest as they come, but fuel efficient,clean and smooth maybe not! One of the 4x4 mags recently put cruiser 4.2 turbo diesel,patrol 4.2turbo diesel and F250 4.2 turbo diesel in a head to head comparison. The most economical was the F250 even though it was the most powerfull and the heaviest it was closely followed by the cruiser also a direct injection although nearly a tonne lighter, the patrol was about per 100k behind the other two and was criticised fo lacking in power compared with the other two.Regards Ken.
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Follow Up By: Geoff - Thursday, Apr 25, 2002 at 00:00

Thursday, Apr 25, 2002 at 00:00
But they are something like 15 grand cheaper on the road than the Toyota (real price - after bargaining with the dealer), so it's to be expected that they won't be as powerful, clean or efficient as the Toyota.
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Reply By: Ken - Thursday, Apr 25, 2002 at 00:00

Thursday, Apr 25, 2002 at 00:00
Geoff, I agree with you and I also think that the GU parol 4.2 turbo is a better overall package than cruiser 78 0r 100 series when you take purchase price in to the equasion. Regards Ken.
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