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Any recommendation of what is the best option for internet in remote areas. Particularly interested on something that does not cost and arm and a leg.
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Reply By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:10

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:10
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:15

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:15
hi maxine c
my advice is if you aren't with telstra then before leaving change to telsta based reception as its everywhere the other companies are hit and miss and dont have the broad coverage that telstra has most minesites use telstra
im not connected with the telstra company or engaging in selling their products just a very happy customer who has proved they have the best system in the many arears that i have travelled using optus and telsta based mobile phones side by side
as for the best and lastest eqiupment to have i'm sure others will give that advice in due course
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Reply By: Kris and Kev - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 12:08

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 12:08
The best internet reception we get is with our Telstra Blue Tick mobile phone connected to an external antenna (via a patch lead). Also have a Telstra 4g mobile USB modem that we use when we get reception on it, also connected to the antenna. Fairly low cost, but still has its limitations in remote areas. But the phone is better at coverage then the USB modem. Our antenna can be placed anywhere and has a magnetic base, so you can have on the roof of your car, or place it higher up. Kevin
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Reply By: TrevorDavid - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 12:26

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 12:26
Maxine C

I have Telstra 3G connection at home for my internet. I take the modem whith me with a portable antenna. Where there is a Telstra phone service i have internet at no extra cost.


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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 12:43

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 12:43
Yes Telstra has the most extensive coverage. If you can't get a signal with them the then only option is satellite internet which will cost at least 2 arms and a leg.
Just chill out and enjoy the solitude of no phone and internet.
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Reply By: Member Andys Adventures - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 13:10

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 13:10
Hi Maxine,
If you only want email on the internet a sat phone will send and recive emails. Otherwise Telstra is the only answer.
Andy
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Reply By: equinox - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 14:17

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 14:17
I used a Bgan system in 2010 in remotes areas for a bit of a test.

At $1000 to hire and almost the same for internet charges, it was a bit pricy however there were not a lot of options once you get out of Telstra range. There may be other options now.

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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 14:56

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 14:56
$1000? is that to hire a sat phone?
With the Government rebate you can buy one for less than $400
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Follow Up By: equinox - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:32

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:32
No not a sat phone. It's a rectangular unit and you face it towards a satellite.

Then you plug it in to your laptop and you have full internet access.

$10 per MB from memory.

I might be being pedantic here but I have never picked up telstra in a remote area.




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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:40

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:40
We have picked up Telstra from the Mantu Hills, almost 30km north of Telf mine.

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:43

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:43
Telfer........ :)
They now have a fibre optic cable to the mine....
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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:49

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:49
Equinox - you are dead correct.
If you look at the Telstra coverage map then most of the land area in WA, SA, NT and outback Queensland is out of range of their 3G and 4G system
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Follow Up By: equinox - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 20:04

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 20:04
Yes you're right Peter - Telfer does have 3G, when I passed through on the Telfer road in 2010 I got a single bar on my phone.

Here's my report from 2010 on Bgan Modem - Thread 80084

Here's the most remote exploroz forum thread to date (as far as I know) - Thread 79282


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Follow Up By: get outmore - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 21:31

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 21:31
I find mobile internet works far better out bush (when in range) than in the city

internet at my place 15km from the city is hit and miss with it frequently roaming to the edge network,

anywhere there is a few people internet shuts down completly , in the case of street festivals etc the entire network crashes, no text, calls, internet nothing


but at work it all works fine ......
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Reply By: Member - Justin O (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 14:44

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 14:44
Telstra. I made a phone call from Lake Wyara at Currawinya NP using Telstra's Next G with an external aerial. Telstra Bill showed I hit the Thargomindah tower
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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:04

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 15:04
For extra range an external antenna is the go and for even further range a yagi antenna is also available for nextG.
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Reply By: Peter E10 - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 16:33

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 16:33
Hi Maxine- We travel to the northwest of WA regularly and I use a Telstra blue tick iPhone, (4 S) pre paid which gives me phone wherever there is reception. My wife's phone is a non blue tick jobbie (HTC Wildfire) and after about 5 k's out of towns, it is useless. I also use a Telstra Wireless 3G modem with my laptop which is ok. I also buy $30 pre paid vouchers for it. In WA, any further north than about Carnarvon and Telstra is it really. I buy $30 vouchers from Coles or Woolworthjs simply because you get the fuel vouchers with them and if you are travelling, any fuel discount is worth getting.
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Reply By: Herbal - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 16:43

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 16:43
It seems that most people are suggesting Telstra.

My suggestion would be to get a pre-paid modem (unlocked). Then you can use a sim from which ever gives the best service at the time.

Telstra is no better than any other provider...It just happens to have a lot of customers that are also share holders ! Think about it. Most, not all, but most other providers rent Telstra equipment to provide their service.

I live just outside Nowra, a large south coast city. Telstra on mobile, both phone and web is almost a non event. When I lived at Moss Vale, only about 5 years ago, I waited 9 months for Telstra to put an internet signal on my LANDLINE. But that is nothing, my neighbour had been waiting 4 and a half YEARS. I never did get my Telstra internet there as I moved back to the coast. Telstra's given reason was that Moss Vale is considered by them as "remote".

At the and of the day, not enough people have objected to the way these so called "service" providers opperate. Imagine if you went into say a car sales yard and paid for a car and the salesman said 'sorry, even though you have paid for a car, we don't have to provide you with the car but we will keep your money anyway'. Well that is how these "service" providers work. Not only that, but infact YOUR representatives, the Government, have introduced LAWS allowing these companies to take your money and not be under any obligation what so ever to provide any sort of service!!!

When Telstra REFUSES to provide a paid for service at locations like Moss Vale and Nowra outskirts, what hope do you think there is for say...mmm..Shady Camp?
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Follow Up By: Member - eighty matey - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 22:04

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 22:04
When you head "just about" anywhere west of the Great Divide it has to be Telstra (I hold no shares at all).

We travel with two other couples regularly.
We have a Vodafone account and it's useless west of Moree, until Alice Springs and then only good for Darwin, Broome and Kununurra.
Another couple have an Optus number and it's hit and miss nut mostly miss.
There's a Telstra 3G which is hit and miss.
My mate does a lot of remote work and he's had Telstra Next G since it started and was often on the phone where I thought phones wouldn't be possible.
By far the best is Telstra Next G. We have bought a cheap one for $25 and top it up. We were in contact more than we ever have before. Even picked up signal halfway down the Tanami Rd near the Tanami Mine, so we made calls, received and sent texts and the wife updates her Facebook status.

That's our story.

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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 23:11

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 23:11
I don't like saying it out loud, but Telstra's mobile internet is so much better than the others for coverage and speed it's not worth looking at the others. I've been with all the main 3 providers, no contest at all. Not a shareholder either.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 23:15

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 23:15
And Optus and Vodafone have their own mobile service towers separate from Telstra.
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Follow Up By: Member Andys Adventures - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 00:22

Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 00:22
You can get Telstra service 5 klm out of shady camp. Was their last year and made several phone calls and checked my emails on the internet. So you do have hope Herbal.
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 17:21

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 17:21
Having been around the block 3 times and thru most deserts I believe that Telstra is the only provider to use.
We have a 4G dongle and a Telstra phone both can be attached by patch lead to our external caravan antenna, we have had signal in most places and yes in the deserts when really remote no coverage unless one has a sat phone. When one knows that one will be really remote then hire a sat phone as a backup.
Just my experience.

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Reply By: p_marns - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 21:01

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 21:01
once you go west of the great divide anything but telstra is useless
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Reply By: Maxine C - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 21:11

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2013 at 21:11
Appreciate all the replies. We have had a good coverage with Telsta with moden stick before but were wondering about the sat situation as we have a need to be able to be conacted on out next trip. Guess what everyone is saying, is it is not cost effective.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 08:17

Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 08:17
Depending on your needs, another option to keep in touch are the Spot devices. The Spot 2 only sends a preset message from you to others, such as "Stopped for the night. All OK" I think the Spot Connect has limited 2 way functions. They sell them on this site so should have more details.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 00:16

Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 00:16
Hi Maxine

Firstly where are you going, and how long will you be in a remote area? Do you need internet every day?

If you need internet daily and are going remote, you will need Satellite internet. We travel with Telstra Next G with antenna but carry a satellite phone when remote for emergencies. I coped with two or three weeks at maximum without internet when touring. Three weeks when in the Kimberley would have been the longest time.

You are welcome to email me at westnet.com.au if you would like information about satellite services or mobile network coverage.

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Follow Up By: Maxine C - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 08:29

Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 08:29
We are heading up the Birdsville into QLD and then along the west QLD roads to the coast, following the gulf to Normanton, across to the coast and then to Wepar. We will zigzag back south from coast to inland and back so not worried about that area.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 14:28

Wednesday, Jan 09, 2013 at 14:28
Hi Maxine

Although i have not been through the entire area, you would not be away from towns for long periods so Next G should give you coverage most days. As we prefer to camps away from towns and in National Parks, i sometimes prepare emails so we can stop in the town we are driving through during the day to check and send emails, do banking or other internet based requirements. Next G coverage usually extends for around 20 kilometres around the town in relatively flat terrain. With the antenna which is can place on the caravan roof depending on the terrain this can be extended with a week but usable signal outside of this radius.

I have in an emergency prevailed upon at station to use their internet at their station store/fuel outlet - they were a very helpful family.

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