Vehicle side awning sizes
Submitted: Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 15:48
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scottalanna
Hi, buying a side awning for a 120 series Prado. Either ARB, Black widow, Ironman etc
They seem to come either 2m long x 2.5 out, or vice-a-versa 2.5 long x 2m out.
Not sure why they don't make it 2.5m x 2.5m. Could anyone explain why.
My main question is, which is the best orientation. We have laid tarps out next to the car car with the tape measure and sat our chairs on there to get a feel for it, but wishing to 'phone a friend' on this one. Obviously wanting to know which provides the most shade.
I fell the shorter 2m one looks neater on the car and probably quieter due to not sticking out forward of the top of the windscreen.
Reply By: BluePrint Industries Pty Ltd - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 16:46
Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 16:46
Hi Scottalanna,
Awnings can be made in almost any size & shape, but in order to reduce the number of variants and provide ecconomy of scale, normally companies get them made in a couple of standard sizes. This makes it easy for the manufacturers as they can purchase materials in bulk precut rather than having to special order different lengths for every customer.
We have previously had custom 2.5 x 2.5m awnings made for a customer who mounted them end to end to create a 5m x 2.5m side awning for their drag car trailer so they could erect a trackside workshop so to speak.
As long as the roll out length isnt more than about 1.5x the length of the awning then it's not normally a problem. Also remember if you make it 2.5 x 2.5 it will be heavier and harder for one person to erect.
We currently do 3 different sizes:
1.7m long x 2.5m Out (Rear or Dual Cab)
2.0m long x 2.5m out (Side)
2.5 x long x 2.0m out (side)
Generally I would recommend that you get a length that best fits the side of your vehicle or roof rack, as it will mount easier and be more stable.
We currently run a 2m x 2.5 on our vehicle and it provides a good cover.
Regards
Kurk
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 20:48
Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 20:48
Hi scottalanna
We have had a Black Widow for just over 6 years and have been very happy with it. We to have a 120 Series Prado and my main concern was making it secure on the vehicle. The mounting brackets supplied are very stable and it has been on some very serious corrugated tracks like the Gunbarrel, Anne Beadell, Connie Sue, Sandy Blight
Junction Track, various Nullarbor Tracks to name a few and have never had any problems with its stability.
We went for the 2.5m wide and 2m deep. It works very
well and has coped in some very heavy rain. You will not hear any wing noise when driving and they are very quick and easy to set up. Even in calm weather, I peg it down, as we have been caught out a couple of time when it has been very calm, and in the middle of the night, winds have spring up very quickly and anything that is not secure will be blown away.
Here are some images of it set up and what they look like on a Prado.

Set up and angled from heavy overnight rain in the Simpson

Set up for the approaching rain, cross country travel NT

Used as a clothesline on the Gunbarrel

Great for a shady spot for lunch breaks when there is no shade

Set up on the side of the vehicle

Another great camp out on the Nullarbor
Cheers
Stephen
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Follow Up By: graham B9 - Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 07:52
Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 07:52
This one is great. See where the 2 red towels are hanging, you can sew on this edge some "Kedar" and this will allow you to extend the awning another 2 meters ( or any length you like). A shade cloth extension is even better as it is lighter and gives shade. You already have protection from the rain with the main awning. In fact you can sew kedar on all three sides and then extend all sides as
well. You will need a length of "double throat 6mm rope track". (Google it). You can get aluminium or plastic from "Capral". They will cut it to size for you as
well about $30. File the end to make them smooth after they cut it. You will need a 200mm tapered mill file from Bunningsfor this job. The lengths of track will fit inot the awning bag on top of the vehicle.
generally the material used in these awnings is 550gsm and the weight of this is too much for a awning 2.5 meters out from the vehicle. 2 meters is OK.
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 21:31
Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 21:31
FWIW, mostly I see are 2.5 long and 2.0 out, and that's what I ended up fitting (Ironman).
A tip, as mentioned, do always peg it out unless dead still and a quick
lunch stop.
But, instead of running the lines out as the pics above, put a simple hitch around near the bottom of each pole, and peg it down close to the pole base.
Works just as
well to hold it down, and doesn't get in the way when walking about (especially in the dark).
I leave the cords fitted and rolled up with the awning.
Oh, another advantage of using the 2.5 length is you can have a one piece 2.4m sand flag and have a handy
home for it.
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Reply By: scottalanna - Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 22:18
Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 22:18
Excellent, the 2.5m long is the go.
I thought I only had a couple of choices but the list goes on Rhino, Roo Systems, Gunya, Supapeg. They all seem to work similar.
Heaps of other related advice too...
Now to choose one....the prices range from about $200 to about $400.
One place offered to fit it for $150...shame on them. I think I'll be doing that.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 07:14
Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 07:14
It's an easy fit up job Scott, you should have no problems.
$150 (inc gst) is probably not too bad a price if a person isn't confident to do the job themselves . . . some of the operation is best done by 2 people, and brackets can be time consuming to get right (if using 3 they must align
well, plus need to be secured
well to roof rack bars or baskets).
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Follow Up By: Member - Sonshine - Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 at 16:26
Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 at 16:26
Totally Agree - we havent really noticed any additional noise. In this case, I reckon Bigger is Better.
Gaz
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Reply By: Trevor P4 - Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 22:05
Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 22:05
I have a 100 series standard wagon with
barn doors and I have always wanted an awning over the open doors. AS you can see in Stephens photos his rear area is open to the weather.
I made an awning that is 2300 mm wide that mounts on the side of my truck with or without roof rack using wingnuts.
It moves to the rear of the truck in about 5 mins using the same wingnuts and a seperate set of captive bolts, and spreads about 600mm either side of the open doors.
After its first use I had my canvas guy add 1200 mm to the unfolded length (out to 3500mm) which allows for a 3/4 drop down side and this stops wind blown rain coming under the awning, provided the car is positioned correctly for the pervailing weather.
With the 600 MM on either side of the doors I can have the doors open in all weather and access the whole of the cargo area in comfort.
I have two ridge poles and two vertical poles roled up in the awning when packed away and I store the other two vertical poles under the cruisers rear
seat.
I don't use a bag for the awning just two web straps to hold it rolled up.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Jan 14, 2013 at 09:15
Monday, Jan 14, 2013 at 09:15
Freds Arm is the expensive (and mybe just a little quicker) option to that for a commercial awning . . .
http://www.bwidow.com.au/fredsarm.htm
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