Tuesday, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:48
Hi Guys
If you do your research you will find its OK to run multiple controllers in parallel to a battery bank.
If one decides to limit the current the other will make up for this shortfall.
And as
well most modern controllers have blocking diodes fitted to stop this perceived
feedback.
Its only the very older models that seem to allow
feedback.
My suggestion is to have the two controllers of the same make and capacity.
Else as mentioned get a bigger model.
The Morningstar Prostar Controller is able to be paralleled with up to 300amps capacity.
this model comes in either 15 or 30 amps.
Morningstar’s ProStar is the world’s leading
mid-range solar controller for both professional
and consumer applications.
This second generation ProStar:
• Adds new features and protections using highly advanced technology
• Provides longer battery life and improved system performance
• Sets new standards for reliability and self-diagnostics
Standard Features:
• Versions available: 15 or 30 amp 12 / 24 or 48 volt negative or positive ground
• Estimated 15 year life
• PWM series battery charging (not shunt)
• 3-position battery select: gel, sealed or flooded
• Very accurate control and measurement
• Jumper to eliminate telecom noise
• Parallel for up to 300 amps
• Temperature compensation
• Tropicalisation: conformal coating, stainless steel fasteners & anodized aluminum heat sink
• No switching or measurement in the grounded leg
• 100% solid state
• Very low voltage drops
• Current compensated low voltage disconnect (LVD)
• LED’s indicate battery status and faults
• Capable of 25% overloads
• Remote battery voltage sense terminals Electronic Protections:
• Short-circuit — solar and load
• Overload — solar and load
• Reverse polarity
• Reverse current at night
• High voltage disconnect
• High temperature disconnect
• Lightning and transient surge protection
• Loads protected from voltage spikes
• Automatic recovery with all protections
If you buy quality then there will be no issues. They also come with a 2 year warranty
See GEMAC Solar and Power on this site. They are able to supply all this stuff
AnswerID:
502601
Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 15, 2013 at 14:11
Tuesday, Jan 15, 2013 at 14:11
Hi Geoff,
"And as
well most modern controllers have blocking diodes fitted to stop this perceived
feedback.
Its only the very older models that seem to allow
feedback."
You've missed the point.
You are correct in saying that most modern controllers stop the
feedback FROM THE BATTERY to the panels.
If the panels or panel groups are parallelled BEFORE the regulator blocking diodes are needed to stop one panel or group backfeeding to the other if one is shaded and the other not. The
feedback is coming from the lit panels, not the battery.
Cheers
Cheers
FollowupID:
779105
Follow Up By: jdpatrol - Tuesday, Jan 15, 2013 at 22:34
Tuesday, Jan 15, 2013 at 22:34
Just checked. Panels all have blocking diodes at
junction boxes on panels. Hopefully that should be ok . Cheers
FollowupID:
779153
Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 at 00:34
Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 at 00:34
Jd,
They are almost certainly bypass diodes which have a different function. In very simple terms they protect the panel from backfeed within itself. Their presence or absence depends on the construction of the panel and also the quality - cheaper panels may not have them when perhaps they should.
Blocking diodes protect the panel from backfeed from other panels connected in parallel. The only time you need to consider them is if you intend to connect other panels in parallel, which is what you have described.
Most people don't bother with blocking diodes. However without them you run the risk of the back feed into the shaded panel creating hotspots which can damage cells. Also, the backfeed is lost power that should be going to the regulator to charge your battery. Instead it is going to the shaded panel and being wasted as heat.
The diodes are really cheap and installation is dead simple.
If you want more specific info, PM me.
Cheers
FollowupID:
779162
Follow Up By: jdpatrol - Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 at 07:51
Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 at 07:51
Thanks Frank, i can't PM as I'm not a member anymore. Are you just talking about standard Jaycar diodes? I've got a few of those spare. Roof panels are Sharp polcrystalline so i hope they would be ok, new one's are Rich (?) - cheapee ?? may be, so I'll add diode on that line at least. cheers
FollowupID:
779169
Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:07
Wednesday, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:07
Jd,
You need diodes in the output from BOTH panels. If you put them in only one line, only one panel is protected.
You need diodes that can handle the current (about 10 amps) and also the max possible reverse voltage (typically about 22V in a "12Volt" panel). And they need to be easy to work with in your application (think a cylindrical package with a wire out of each end), and have a low voltage drop.
All that adds up to a Schottky 5amp, 60V diode. Use three in parallel to give you 15 amp current capacity so they are not working hard and staying cool. They come in packs of 10 for under 5 bucks, so I used 5 in parallel for each of my two panels, just to use 'em up.
I got
mine from
RS Australia. If you order on line they deliver FOC within Australia. Order part number 701-0228.
Cheers
FollowupID:
779180
Follow Up By: jdpatrol - Sunday, Feb 10, 2013 at 23:57
Sunday, Feb 10, 2013 at 23:57
Hi Frank, was busy so just getting back to this now. Been going through RS catalogue. Had a question or 2. With 701-0228 diode, spec say max forward voltage is 0.67v - is that ok? Also, why not use
http://australia.rs-online.com/web/p/rectifier-schottky-diodes/6882000/, so don't have to connect 3 in parallel? Cheers
FollowupID:
781338