Windscreen Camera Security
Submitted: Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 17:14
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Allan B (Member, SunCoast)
I am considering getting a windscreen recording camera but don't fancy having to remove and store it each time I leave the car to avoid it being stolen. What do others do about this?
Are there any systems with an unnoticeable miniature camera on the dash or screen with the control and recording unit
well hidden in say the glovebox? Are there other ways to secure it?
Maybe a good product would be a GPS Navigator with a camera built-in looking out the back of the navigator through the windscreen. The GPS, speed and time functions would be available for both the camera and the navigator in one unit. A good product opportunity. Still doesn't resolve the anti-theft issue though.
Reply By: Robin Miller - Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 20:28
Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 20:28
There is a little more to these things than is first apparant Allan
A few weeks ago one of the kids had a nasty incident in which he pulled up into a service station towing 3 bikes and as he got out of car a police car pulled in front of him and out came an almost constant stream of words beginning with "F" - he had apparantly done nothing he knew to warrant this except worked the car hard from the lights because of the towing load - hence the police just left after the outburst - perhaps embrassed by there over reaction.
We therefore agreed we needed a camera the would not be obvious to anyone and brought the item below.
It works
well (apart from a very short life battery - which isn't needed anyway).
Now because this item records speed and GPS location it needs to have its top mounted antenna visible to part of sky.
Its small (but not minature) size and aspect ratio means it can be carefully located at top of windscreen and is not very visible side on whilst the front mostly sits behind the tinted band at top of windscreen.
Note the mount at the top is not used and special mount was made to assist with its unobtrusive set up.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FuLL-HD1920x1080P-GPS-Car-DVR-Camera-Recorder-5M-CMOS-Wide-Angle-H-DMI-GS1000-/321047817907?pt=US_Video_In_Dash_Units_w_GPS&hash=item4abff0eeb3
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 20:44
Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 20:44
Robin,
I like that explanation from your youngin that he just gave it a bit at the lights because of the load. When I was
young the copper would have kicked your shins while he explained why you shouldn't do what you did. The more you claimed innocence the more you shins got kicked.
RA.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 20:52
Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 20:52
Maybe that's the anti-theft solution Robin. Make it as unobtrusive as possible. Up behind the mirror although with the lens not obscured by the tinted band.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 21:14
Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 21:14
Thats why we need the cameras RA.
Allan , that unit has a low profile side on - not like other units I have with fold down screens etc.
It has a single 6mm hole where it connects to the top mount so once the top mount is thrown away its easy to make the item unobtrusive with a
home made foam block or whatever.
The only cable going to it (a usb power cable) protrudes upwards from the top contributing to a low profile.
Depending on what your trying to achieve it fits neatly to the side of and halfway behind a rear vision mirror - to the left if you keeping it from those looking in your drivers window - or to the right if you wish to reduce its visibility to those walking past on the sidewalk.
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 21:38
Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 21:38
Robin,
I agree. Next time the copper will walk up and ever so politely issue your son a ticket for undue noise in the operation of a motor vehicle.
He has a choice. Cop the abuse or get the ticket. The copper didn't pick on him for nothing.
Allen,
If you want a camera that is easy to remove, high quality and doesn't get in the road, this maybe what you want.
HD camera
One thing, Temperature effects most of them so it is best to hide them from the sun if possible.
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Follow Up By: Member - gaz 290 - Saturday, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:57
Saturday, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:57
i am wondering if audio and video evidence can be used against the police also as some not all cop can be very rude no matter how civil one tiries to be
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Sunday, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:13
Sunday, Jan 20, 2013 at 11:13
Basically No Gaz - but I sort of see this as a bonus.
In isolation they are not good enough - for the same reasons that roadside revenue camera's are require to meet verifiable standards.
In reality though the are great for social media situations which can have far more real effect and can be placed on sites like this where everyone can see what really happened precisely because they are not court room standard and hence can't be turned around and used against the poster.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, Jan 20, 2013 at 23:10
Sunday, Jan 20, 2013 at 23:10
No law against being rude, if that's your perception Gaz.
By the way, any audio or video footage can be used in evidence, just look at the way security CCTV footage is used constantly in court.
The basis of any evidence is its contestability by the opposing party, meaning if you think the video is not truthful then you have the ability to question and
test the facts presented by the video image.
Speed cameras require verifiable speed detection accuracy, nothing to do with the image itself as long as the image can clearly identify the detected vehicle.
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Reply By: Going Bush - Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 23:28
Friday, Jan 18, 2013 at 23:28
Ive got a BlackVue DR400g HD, about $350
The camera is un-noticible, Its permanantly mounted on the windscreen behind /infront of the mirror - you cant see it unless you know its there. It dosent even look like a camera so the typical druggie would not even think to take it.
It also records speed /gps position as
well as 10 or so hours of HD
check this clip I put up on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_CTzhbXPOA
NSW police are keen to follow up the matter , you can read the Hilux rego from the SD card output, Youtube resolution isnt as good as the actual files
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