Comment: Oodnadatta Track

Going to do the track in July. Prado pulling a camper trailer, however no stone guard. What is the chances of rear window damage given the track condition? Is cardboard on the back window enough to stop any damage? Cheers & beers
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Reply By: RobAck - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 17:31

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 17:31
Your chance of stone damage including a windscreen depends on track conditions. If you are lucky and the grader crew have been through below William Ck and the track is compacted then you have a lower risk but not 100% out of the risk.

Cardboard is not up to it. Just get some coreflute cut to shape and use some of the round stick on velcro tabs, around 10-12 little dots will be enough. Coreflute handles impacts and water much better than cardboard

We run our Ultimate up there all the time with no issues and that does not have a stone guard but its design is somewhat different than most CT's

Regards

RobA
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Follow Up By: Marts09 - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:03

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:03
Thanks for the tip. Either coreflute or rubber matting may be the way to go..
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Reply By: Notso - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 18:12

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 18:12
Met a fella on the track a couple of years back and he said a rock the size of a cricket ball had come through the rear window and missed his daughter's head by inches. He spent a week at the Pink Roadhouse waiting for a new rear window.

So I'd be recommending something to make sure it doesn't happen to you.
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Follow Up By: Marts09 - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:05

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:05
Don't like the idea of having to wait for a new window if something happens, so am looking at my options. At least I have a cage so any stray rocks won't hurt the kids.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Graeme W (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 19:28

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 19:28
Hi,

I broke a rear window on my Prado a couple of years ago because I didn't cover it over. It wasn't on the Oodnadatta Track, but I remember it being quite stony between William Creek and Oodnadatta the year that I travelled it.

I wouldn't risk it.

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Reply By: Member - Ann D (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 19:50

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 19:50
Marts 09,

As the others have said you will need something better than cardboard.

Have seen taped to back window the foam rubber squares, taped with black cloth tape to hold together,then clear plastic velcro,to window looked like they had used plastic channel to sit it in.
cheers
AnnD
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Follow Up By: Marts09 - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:06

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:06
Sounds like a good option along with coreflute. Am weighing up my options.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 20:12

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 20:12
Hi. Have a look at http://www.stonestomper.com.au/ No affiliation etc but I use one. Not only do they protect the trailer but also the rear of your vehicle. cheers,Bob.
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Follow Up By: Marts09 - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:07

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:07
Looks good, but need to weigh up the cost against other possible options. Thanks for the tip.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 20:16

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 20:16
Very easy to break a rear window on the Oodnadatta Track. I've broken one myself and seen many others. The rocks are bigger than the average gravel outback road.
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Reply By: Member - Outback Gazz - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 20:42

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 20:42
Howdy Marts09


If you don't want to install a stoneguard or rear window protection then it might pay to just reverse the trailer along the track. Could be a tad slow but you won't smash a rear window or chip the front of your trailer that way !


Happy Travelling and enjoy the tracks beauty


Gazz


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Follow Up By: Barry 2 - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 00:59

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 00:59
Hi Gazz
You got it one !!!
You can travel all over Aus using that method !!!!!
No stone damage......LOL

Safe travels to all
Baz
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Follow Up By: Marts09 - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:08

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:08
Good tip, but a slow trip. Might pass on that one!

Cheers
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Reply By: Will 76 Series - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 21:38

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 21:38
Marts,

Cardboard does not cut it. It is a good emergency method but I also run a similiar plastic cut to size as RobA described with the suction caps. This gives a bit of flex and doesn't come off.
Stone Stomper is a good bit of kit but a bit pricey. If you havn't got a stone guard, I would definately consider getting one, it is around the $500 mark but it also keeps a tremendous amount of dust down.
Good luck.

Regards Will76
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Follow Up By: Marts09 - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:10

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:10
I like the matting and suction caps idea. The stone stomper does sound the go!

Thanks
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Reply By: Member - nick b - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 22:48

Wednesday, Jan 23, 2013 at 22:48
The Oodnadatta ROAD is a very rocky road & I would say it's a must to have some protection . I have a stone guard on camper but I also put cardboard on the back window , as you can see in my profile photo ..... it's cheap insurance ...." just think what you would do if you broke your rear window along the way !!! "
Also be careful of other cars spraying you with rock when passing ....
Cheers Nick b
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 08:12

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 08:12
Another vote for the Stone Stomper. While not cheap, it is very effective, & protects
both car & trailer/van.......oldbaz.
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 08:30

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 08:30
Hope this is on topic, for those who have a stone stomper, does it interfer with hitching and unhitching? has anyone got a similar stone deflector ( who's website is down at the momnet for some reason)
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Reply By: KevinE - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 09:01

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 09:01
I made a cheap & cheerful trampoline style stone guard out of a length of 1.8 wide shade cloth, 2 off-cuts of conduit from the scrap bin at Stratco, some cable ties to fix the ends of the shade cloth to the conduit & 2 lengths of cheap nylon rope to tie the conduit off to the rear bumper of the car & the front of the trailer, making sure to have the shade cloth running under the length of the drawbar. Cost me about $15 & works a treat!

And yes, hitching/unhitching the trailer is a bit slower, but not much. I just undo the rope attaching the stone guard to the bumper & pull the shade cloth back out of the way.

It's done the Flinders, Gawler Ranges, Oodnadatta Track, Dalhousie, Mt Dare, Finke, Painted desert, Old Ghan line, Palm Valley & Mereenie Loop.

I might try & attach some old trampoline springs on it, too keep it taught while turning tight circles. Although, that will not affect performance, as you're generally going very slow whilst turning on full lock anyway! ;)
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Follow Up By: Mike R7 - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 09:31

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 09:31
With any stone guard it's adviseble to keep it quite slack,to take the momentum out of objects that strike it.

Happy trails, Mike.
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Follow Up By: KevinE - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 18:21

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 18:21
I hear what you're saying Mike & agree; the one I made is somewhat like a horizontal sail made of shade cloth.

what I'm thinking of is keeping it out of the dirt when doing tight turns, as it tends to flex on one side & flop on the other till we're straight again (Think doing a U turn)

I'm going to try & see if I can get springs to that fix that, while still keeping it like a catcher's mitt while we're travelling.

;)

Kevin...... :)



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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:30

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:30
The Oodnadatta road is quite variable in surface structure - from small/medium stones to very firm and smooth in many long stretches (all depending on weather and maintenance timing of course). BUT.... don't just worry about breaking rear windows...without some sort of stone deflection setup between the car and trailer you will probably pepper the rear of the car causing untold duco chips and minor panel dings (the stones ricochet off the trailer). As mentioned above, a quick and and easy 'trampoline' (Stone Stomper style) can be thrown together with some shadecloth and ocky straps.... might not look pretty but can do the job very well. The big advantage with the Stomper is that it is easy to live with (getting fast access to the car and trailer front).... plus it looks 'proper' :-o).
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Follow Up By: Marts09 - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:14

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 17:14
I like the cheaper version of the stone stomper model, so would like to know a little more. Would a proper stone guard on the trailer reflect the stones away from the back of the vehicle, as I have read others still use some form of matting / cardboard on their back windows for extra cover. Cheers to everyone.
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 20:32

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 20:32
I had a full width, 45 degree down-angled stone deflector on my first camper - anything that hit it went 'down' onto the road..... but I still got the rear hatch window of my ute's canopy smashed by a stray stone. Moved to a home made trampoline style setup after that. The thing is, once you cover that whole gap between the car's rear and the trailer's front with sprung shadecloth, you wont need any window protection - I have used this for quite a few unsealed bush trips towing the van - not a spec of duco damage at all - every airborne stone has to find it's way out 'below decks'. As for those thrown up by passing traffic - that's another story !
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Follow Up By: Marts09 - Friday, Jan 25, 2013 at 13:24

Friday, Jan 25, 2013 at 13:24
Thanks all... i am opting for the stone stomper and the comments by most reflect this. One final question on the stomper for those that have used them, does much dust get through to the camper? Rgds.
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Reply By: Ozrover - Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 19:52

Thursday, Jan 24, 2013 at 19:52
Just cover it up! anything is better than nothing & stone guards on campers will let something through eventually!

I've used everything from beer cartons to Polycarbonate (Lexan) sheet (got a piece from Alice for $100), those cheep backpacker sleeping mats are pretty good as well, you can pick one up for as little as $5.00.

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Reply By: Member - David T5 - Friday, Jan 25, 2013 at 17:17

Friday, Jan 25, 2013 at 17:17
Hi Marts09
We did the track last july, no need to worry about rocks on that trip, there was that much mud the rocks seemed to be stuck to the road LOL.
We were in our CRDI Terracan towing a pretty heavy off road camper, there was lots of slipping and sliding and the whole rig was covered in mud at the end, the kids loved it, no so much the wife though.
For what its worth we also did the Plenty Hwy, Mereenie loop, and many other rocky tracks, the beer carton window saver and the basic stone gaurd worked for us, but we may have been lucky.
Have fun !
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