Teflon coating on new 200 series cruiser

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Is the Teflon coating that the dealers try to sell when buying a new car really worth it?
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Reply By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 17:24

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 17:24
Ru talking about paint protection?........ Save your money & polish every 6 months
Fabric protection? ......... Buy some 3M product from Woolies or Bunnings
Teflon coating ha ha making your wallet slippery so your $ slide into theirs.
Enjoy you new 200 series....awesome machine (diesel I hope?)
Insanity doesnt run in my family.... it gallops!

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Follow Up By: Member - Leanne W (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 17:42

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 17:42
Hi Tony,
I should have been more specific.... yes I am talking about paint protection.
Unfortunately it isn't my 200 series, it is my parents. They are getting a diesel though. Perhaps they might let me have a drive one day!
Thanks for your reply.
Leanne
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Reply By: Ross M - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:02

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:02
Leanne W
If the Teflon they are recommending is the same stuff they use on themselves to deflect and repel warranty and service claims, I would think it is very effective.

For use on paint work? I wouldn't accept the offer without scientifically proven knowledge of the product and it's performance.
The dealer will have no knowledge of what is in it, they only know how good it is for YOU.

Seems OK on car salesmen/women though. Note the gender equity there.

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Follow Up By: Member - Barry P (VIC) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:29

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:29
thoroughly agree about some teflon car dealers,will try and slip out of anything under warranty,bye barry
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Follow Up By: Member - Leanne W (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:41

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:41
Hi Ross,
The salesman did tell them how wonderful it supposedly is for stopping bugs, tar and bird droppings sticking in particular. Apparently they simply hose off much more easily.
I am a bit of a skeptic, so told them that I would ask on this forum on their behalf.
Cheers
Leanne
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 20:54

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 20:54
Leanne W
Seriously, get them to show you a vehicle which has been through bugs, has been crapped on and by the owners admission has the Teflon on it and then see if it works with the vehicle 2 years old.

I like the waxing. Do it as required and all is well.
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Reply By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:33

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:33
The only positive I can think of Leanne is that if your parents are booked for speeding the boys in blue will have a hard time making it stick :-).

Seriously though it's money badly spent. A good wax will have just as much effect.
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Follow Up By: Member - Leanne W (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:44

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:44
lol Bazooka!
My sentiments exactly regarding the wax.
Leanne
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Reply By: Witi Repartee - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:38

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:38
Hi.
I was the Business Manager for a multi franchise vehicle dealership.My remuneration was retainer and commission, so I used to love selling Paint Protection, Fabric Protection and Warranties (on used vehicles). The product cost in each case was minimal, $20 for the fabric protection and our "trained operator"was any one of the vehicle groomers I could catch at the time. These products were far more lucrative than selling accessories such as towbars, bullbars and other clip ons.
Believe me I would never recommend these products to my parents.
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Follow Up By: Member - Leanne W (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:45

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:45
Thanks for your very honest reply. Much appreciated.
Leanne
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Reply By: get outmore - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:49

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 19:49
It's upselling
Plain and simple
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Follow Up By: Alan S (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 20:21

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 20:21
Do you want fries with that?
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Reply By: happytravelers - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 22:08

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 22:08
Yes it is a very lucrative upsell for the dealership and no one is more of a sceptic than me. However several years ago I bought a used car from a private seller that was about five years old and had the paint protection applied from new. It was really easy to wash with bird droppings etc. just wiping away. This car was involved in a rear end accident that required the boot and rear guards to be replaced. Paint protection was not re applied to this area, and after a couple of years exposure to the elements it was considerably harder to clean the rear part of the car. I was so impressed with the way the paint protection had performed, that two years ago when I bought a brand new car I applied ceramic paint protection to it. I did it myself as I had a friend working in the detailing dept. of a dealership who gave me the remnants of a used bottle which was enough to do my car. So far it has lasted very well with bird droppings etc. easy to clean off. So yes it does work but whether it's worth the price they charge, you'll have to make up your own mind.

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Follow Up By: Member - Leanne W (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 22:34

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2013 at 22:34
Hi Jon,
Good to hear that it actually does work (and for more than a couple of years). I cant remember exactly how much they charge for it but think it is a few hundred dollars.
Thanks for your reply.
Leanne
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Reply By: get outmore - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 01:53

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 01:53
most stuff you get upsold does actually work to varying degrees but can be done much cheaper either by you or by taking it elswhere - probablly where the caryard sends it

a good example of this is MODERN roofs, driveways shutters etc

I stopped when i saw a house roof getting done near me and asked them how much

he said he didnt know how much modern would charge them but gave me his card and said it would be approx 2 grand less than modern would charge for them to do it
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Follow Up By: Member - Leanne W (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 10:12

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 10:12
Very true.
At least the salesman at the dealership has told them to take the vehicle to the local ARB when they take delivery of it and get them to put on the bullbar, winch, tow bar etc because that is where Toyota would have been sending it for that gear anyway!
Leanne
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:40

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:40
The teflon is not applied to the car, it's applied to the sales people.

That way when you make a claim for your first scratch, it won't stick.

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Reply By: Great Divide Tours - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 08:12

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 08:12
Hi Leanne
A better product if you are trying to avoid off road bush scratches and stone chips is a product called OZICOZI (www.ozicozi.com.au ), this is a clear plastic film applied to the sides of the vehicle and the bonnet (and any where else you prefer on the 200). My personal experience with it is I have had it on my 100 series since 2006 which has now driven say 70% of the off road tracks in Australia and I also have it on my pretty blue FJ Cruiser which does all my weekend tours and driver training courses. It repels the light scratches and stops the heavy ones from penetrating the paintwork. When it comes time to sell the vehicle, simply peel it off and you have the perfectly kept paint job. Please note, this is not the paint on yourself products that are also around, it does need to be applied by someone who knows what they are doing, in their workshop at Artarmon in Sydney, drop in there any day and you will see any number of Porsche and Lambo/Ferrari's being treated. It is costly at around $1800 for a 200 series (but best to get them to quote ask for Andrew, he's the boss.) But it saved me having to spend $400 per year to get the scratches buffed out of the 100 series to keep it looking respectable. It has a high gloss finsh and makes the 4wd look spectacular IMHO. As for stone chips, stick flicks and car park door slams, it is highly effective in repelling damage from these too. All of my vehciles have had it applied for these reasons.
Vic
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Follow Up By: Member - Leanne W (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 10:09

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 10:09
Thanks Vic. Unfortunately we live quite a distance from Sydney, and I think that although the Ozicozi sounds like it is a great product, it would be too expensive. Like you say, it may be a different story if they were planning to take the vehicle bush more often!
Leanne
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Reply By: Member - peter & dawn m (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:33

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:33
have been told that a lot of newer car that you see around with the paint work that seems to be peeling off has been caused by weather [rain] getting under the caoting?? don,t know if this is right or not but there is a lot of cars out there that look awful. swampy
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:42

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 09:42
I think you will find that is caused by using "Pre-Soak" at car washes!



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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 21:13

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 21:13
Shaker ???
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 22:08

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 22:08
..... Yes????
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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 23:43

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2013 at 23:43
LOL was just wondering what you meant by "Pre-Soak"" not that I use car washes anyway............
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Feb 07, 2013 at 17:06

Thursday, Feb 07, 2013 at 17:06
Some of the car washes use quite an agressive pre soak chemical that can break down the clear coat, also at times impatient people will switch to pre soak & wet down their vehicle before the tyre & wheel cleaner is purged from the system which is even worse.
I never use the pre soak.
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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Thursday, Feb 07, 2013 at 17:20

Thursday, Feb 07, 2013 at 17:20
Cheers hanks for that, must say I havn't used pre soak before anyway but does make sense what you say...........
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