Buying a Patrol

Submitted: Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 00:09
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Hi everyone, yesterday I had a look at a 2006 GU4 ST 3litre manual with 190,000km on the clock. They are asking $28,990, the vehicle is fitted with a bullbar, towbar, twin spare wheel carrier, tracklander roof rack, dual batts, 2in lift, polyairs, driving lights, uhf, cargo barrier, and a pretty good homemade draw setup.

I am interested in buying this vehicle but would like to here your opinions on the amount of km's, I'm thinking it may have done a lot of km's towing, is that likely to cause any dramas? Pretty much all the accessories fitted are things I would eventually won't to fit so it seems like a pretty good buy. I would really appreciate your views on this vehicle.

Thanks for your help,

Paul.
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Reply By: Joker - Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 07:58

Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 07:58
Do you need all the extra's immeadiately ? I would look at a crd (late 2007 onward) patrol with less km. Every 10,000km is worth a year of 4x4ing to me. You can always add the extras as you need them. I have a 2010ST and have added as I have required.

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Reply By: Mazdave - Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 08:20

Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 08:20
HI Paul,
I have had 2 GU Patrols in the past a 2004, 3.0litre and a 2007 CRD, both I traded after 80,000kms with no troubles. Based on the 3.0 litres chequered history I guess I minimised the risk. Both vehicles are basically the same with a few cosmetic upgrades. There is no real difference in power or economy. I had 2" lift with OME shockers to both and towed a fairly heavy camper trailer, so the assumption is if it needed airbags on top of that it could have been used for heavier towing. All the accessories are a bonus as you are not really paying anything extra for them, saving you $1000's if you want to buy as an aftermarket. The only thing you need to be sure of is the 190'ks and if it will cause you any worries. Other than the concern of the donk, the rest of it is pretty indestructable.

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Reply By: patrolmann - Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:49

Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:49
Hi Firm351
Firstly if its a 2006 it will be a CRD (common Rail Diesel ) and should not have the issues of the early GU's had.
190ks is a little up there but when you think about it its a 2006 so 7 years old =27000ks a year. Pretty average really.( I have a 2004 Gu with 150,000ks )
All the accessories are good and will cost you big $$$$ to add later.
For me I would call the owner and ask what sort of life did it have. Was the services done regularly at 5000ks and what did it tow ? A caravan or maybe large boat.
Highway ks or city ?
you should be able to check the service manual to see where and when services were done.
Then I would make my choice then.
Cheers
Patrolman
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Reply By: Axle - Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 14:45

Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 14:45
G/Day, Paul, I would make sure the crd motor IS a complete different design to the earlier motors, and reliability is proven., Otherwise you could be in for a hell of a time.


Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: BUSH CAMPER - Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 15:22

Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 15:22
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Reply By: Pete G - Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 20:09

Friday, Feb 15, 2013 at 20:09
Paul,
My source says the CRD GU5 was released early 2007 so you have the ZD30 motor. My GU2 is still in the family with 530k on the clock. Blew the original motor at 140k and was replaced with the GU3 motor which overcame the issues with the early GU2 ZD30's and has now done 390k's. The GU4 motor would be same as the GU3.

Hence, I dont have a problem with yours at 190k.

Based on my experience:
Belt Tensioner replace bearings about every 150k and bushes in the tensioner about
250k depending on how much mud/water work is done. About $350 genuine parts for
whole assembly
Turbo will probably do 300k. Replaced mine when off as had wear. About $1500 parts
Clutch 375k - mass balance blew, linings still good. About $2800 genuine parts & fitted.
Water pump at 500k as was struggling on hot days - viscous drive was issue and
problem resolved.
Rear pads 465k, Front still original

Motor was not modded other than a fan over intercooler. Only ran the Genuine Nissan 10W40 oil and changed every 10k.

I upgraded to a 2011 CRD. Definitely more luxurious, however, IMHO the GU2 was more lively in the 90 to 110 kph bracket. The CRD runs about 400rpm lower and I think misses the sweet spot the ZD30 had at those speeds.

I would check the service history closely as there are some out there who think any oils are oils and will do. The ZD30 should have a 10W40 oil whereas 15W40 is commonly touted.

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Reply By: firm351 - Saturday, Feb 16, 2013 at 02:35

Saturday, Feb 16, 2013 at 02:35
Thanks guys for taking the time to reply to my questions and for being so helpfull. I will go and have another look and press the dealer for some more detailed history of the vehicle and service history. Hopefully now I will be able to make a more informed decision.

Thanks again,

Paul.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 16, 2013 at 08:32

Saturday, Feb 16, 2013 at 08:32
You should be able to speak to the previous owner, the dealer will have his details.
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