NTI serious accident analysis

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 07:44
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For those who like a little light reading here is the NTI findings on bad truck accidents.

It is worth the read and the stats tell a fairly comprehensive story.

Here is the link. NTI accident report and findings
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Reply By: Kris and Kev - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:03

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:03
It is sad that after such a lengthy study the report does not suggest solutions and this being the fifth such report. (I might add that a lot of the report could have been supplied by just asking any serious collision investigator.) It seems more of a report to justify a person’s position. It is interesting reading, but to what end. Sure, analyse data but came out with real solutions. Then each subsequent report should also feature if any of the suggested solutions have been implemented and if so, what difference have they made. Truckies have a hard life and often cop unjustified criticism. We do not want reading material, we want to save lives. Kevin
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Reply By: Lyn W3 - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:20

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:20
It would be interesting to see a similar report focusing on caravan accidents.
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Follow Up By: Honky - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:49

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:49
google "Petris & Helena Jong Coronial Inquest" in South Australia.
Whilst not the same gives a very good indication of what can go wrong when towing a caravan.
Warning - Do not read if easily upset.

Honky
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 15:24

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 15:24
You might imagine the trucky was starting to get pretty bleep off having been held up for several kms by a caravan doing 80 in a 110 zone.

Slow drivers should pull over and let traffic past. How often do you see that happen?

Bob
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Reply By: Bazooka - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 13:58

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 13:58
Some odd stats there - most serious accidents occur on the outbound leg and within 250km of home. Would make more sense the other way but it seems being fresh makes some drivers more careless. Based on my observations of rigid drivers in and around Sydney I'm not in the least surprised to see them disproportionately represented in this company's stats.
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 15:21

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 15:21
RA

Thanks, that was very interesting. "Owen holds a Masters of Logistics Research, and specialises in accident investigation, workplace law, logistics and management." As such, he is probably no more qualified than any of us to comment on accident prevention. Inappropriate speed is listed as responsible for about 25% of truck crashes. Recommendations on managing that would likely come from police, road engineers and drivers. 71% of crashes occur on the outbound journey. How do you address that?

Meanwhile, I think I'll restrict my highway trips to Sundays.

Bob
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 15:55

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 15:55
Bob,
I found the results very interesting and as you say it is stats only, others will glean over these to try and improve things.

I think what I understand about inappropriate speed. It isn't speeding as such just not driving to the conditions and many times that speed can't be foreseen due to changed road problems or unexpected things that are encountered in the course of a trip. It will also be due to the fact the driver for what ever reason didn't slow when he could have.

I was having a cuppa with a B-double east coast operator about 2 hours ago and we were talking about the Bruce goat track. He was just really over roadworks and traffic controllers that didn't either post a correct speed for the area or they posted a reduced speed many kilometres before the roadworks. It is quite common to have 40/60/80k signage posted for no reason at all which creates complacency.
All that info will be analysed and then they will look at ways to reduce the accident rate.



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Follow Up By: Honky - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 17:01

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 17:01
My understanding of the word "Inappropriate speed" does not mean you were going faster than the speed limit, it is just to fast for the conditions.
Excessive speed is used when going over the posted speed limit.

Honky
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Reply By: Kris and Kev - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 20:25

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 20:25
I once investigated an incident where a semi fully loaded with large logs ran off the road and took out a very large tree. The driver was killed instantly. He had just left home after a good night’s sleep, had had his breakfast and was not tired, good straight section of road, slight downhill. No other vehicles on the road at the time. Vehicle was mechanically sound. Just lost control, don’t know how, open Coroners finding. I did suspect that he may have been using his mobile phone at the time, but could not match the time of the collision and the time of the phone call. Or perhaps was attempting to put the phone back in its holder. Just my suspicions. But it was very sad for his young family. Sometimes things just happen, all vehicles are dangerous machines and we tend to take them for granted. Kevin
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 21:31

Thursday, Mar 14, 2013 at 21:31
Kevin,
I have seen this before with someone I know that did exactly the same as you described. Good sleep, no stress, starting a weeks work and ended his life as you describe. No rhyme, no reason and one was never found. Straight road and then straight into the scrub.

I do know that distraction is one of the great unknown killers. From the old cigarette, to the changing channels on the radio, to something falling on the floor that you try to retrieve. Have been there many times and got away with it.
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