Rear bar incorporating Hayman Reece receptacle
Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 09:59
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Member - PJR (NSW)
As most of you would be aware the departure angle for a 100 series is lousy if you have a factory style towbar fitted. The tow bar sticks down under the bumper. We have the opportunity to replace the damaged factory plastic useless thing with a steel bar. We are thinking that if there is a steel rear bar around with the tow receptacle actually built into the bar then we should get another two inches departure clearance. We also want to carry two spares or at least one spare wheel and a jerry can carrier. And we need to be able to remove the carriers when not in the bush. A big ask but you never know whats out there unless you ask. We have been searching and going through the makers sites and so far no luck.
Does anyone know of a rear steel bar wihich has dual carrier facilities (spare or jerry can holder either side) with the Hayman Reece receptacle incorporated actually in the bar and not stuck under it?
Phil
Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:41
Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:41
I should add that the car is a 2005 100 series 4.2TD GXL IFS.
Phil
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Reply By: Member - John - Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:05
Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:05
Phil, had a look at Kaymar web site and found a bar that may suit you.
KIT100U-IFS
replacement bar/towbar with LHS and RHS carrier, tested and rated to 3,500kg towing capacity, 350kg ball load, improved clearance and brilliant rear-end protection
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:23
Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:23
Hi
John
If you blow that photo up you can see that unfortunately it is either under or attacked to the bottom of the steel bar. No gain in height that is evident.
Thanks mate
Phil
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:07
Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:07
Phil,
I think that you will find that it is the vehicle's chassis that causes the tow bar to be low.
The tow bar is bolted to the chassis and because of the chassis design the tow bar goes under the chassis and rear bumper
Incorporating a rear bar and tow bar means that it would still have to be bolted to the same position on the chassis as a normal tow bar. This is the only way to get the tow bar rating.
The rear bar might sit a bit higher but the to bar will be about he same height.
Wayne
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:39
Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:39
You are correct Wayne. However I am hoping that some rear bar manufacturer has a model that includes a Haymen Reece style tow point as a part of the bar itself and suitably rated and placed midway vertically in the bar. We do not tow but it is a handy point for recovery etc. It doesn't hurt to put the question "out there".
Phil
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Reply By: jacent - Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:51
Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:51
Yeah mate the kaymar is the only one I have heard of unless you get something fabricated
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:21
Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:21
The Kaymar one is under the actual steele bar. No gain as its in the same place as the original Toyota one.
Thanks But we shall hope someone comes up with a solution.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Lyn W3 - Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:58
Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:58
If you are only going to use it for recovery perhaps you could get one fabricated/modified and add some shackle mounts or d rings to the bar directly behind where the chassis mounts to the bar. That way you could use an equalizer strap and be pulling directly off the chassis and not in the center of the bar.
Shackle MountD-Ring shackle
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 13:25
Tuesday, Mar 19, 2013 at 13:25
Thanks Lyn
If you read my original post you will see that we want to carry spare wheels and/or jerry cans on the back.
We need the tow point in case one day I may want to hire a small household trailer to get rid of rubbish etc.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Howard P (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 00:12
Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 00:12
Hi Phil,
Have you had a look at the ARB duel wheel carrier and tow bar ? I have one on my 100 series and it has plenty of ground clearance.
Cheers
Howard
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 08:30
Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 08:30
We did. And on a mates car. Unfortunately it's the same clearance as our current tow bar.
We may get one anyway as the current wheel carries was damaged as
well and it would be handy to have the option to carry extra fuel for our planned solo Canning drive. That would give us around 255 litres.
Thanks
Phil
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Follow Up By: Rosscotd105 - Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 21:23
Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 21:23
Hey Phil,
This does what you want, but due to reasons mentioned above re: tow rating and chassis mounting it isn't certified for towing. Are you towing or are you just using for recovery purposes?
http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/100_rear_bumper_dual.htm
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Lyn W3 - Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 22:57
Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 22:57
Sorry Phil, just going on the info you posted
"We do not tow but it is a handy point for recovery etc."
What I described is the same setup as the one on Sleeoffroad. A friend has one of their setups in the USA.
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 23:37
Wednesday, Mar 20, 2013 at 23:37
I just sent Sleeoffroad an email asking for an Australian distributor. If they have one then the I am hoping that the bar is certified.
All fingers and toes crossed.
To answer
Ross's question. We are not towing. Been there and found it too limiting in the
Vic High country. Try towing up Billy Goat. I think not mate.
Prefer the freedom to go wherever we want without worrying about a trailer limiting us.
Phil
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