NISSAN NAVARA D40 2013 Auto 2.5 Diesel Auto

Submitted: Thursday, Apr 04, 2013 at 20:05
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Hi all,

Just chasing feedback before we sign on the dotted line tomorrow. Used maining for day to day and some caravan towing (2.8T)

Any comments on this vehicle good or bad?

Mick
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Reply By: Nutta - Thursday, Apr 04, 2013 at 20:19

Thursday, Apr 04, 2013 at 20:19
Nothing to bad about the auto navs, maybe a bit light on underbody protection and have heard they can do timing chains around 100k.

Have fun with it!
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Reply By: Member - iijmartin - Thursday, Apr 04, 2013 at 23:05

Thursday, Apr 04, 2013 at 23:05
Gday Mick,
Had a 2010 Navara D40 auto d/cab chipped with Steinbauer chip making kW and torque same as new 2013 model. I sold and it and replaced it with the 3.2 L Mazda BT 50 d/cab just before Xmas. Both have towed my 2.8 t. The Mazda is a MUCH superior tow tug - better fuel economy, better 6 sp auto transmission, more grunt and surprisingly to me far more stable towing the van. Both utes had Hayman Reese WDH attached to van. Current Mazda has standard suspension (needs upgrade as rear springs etc too soft), Navara had OME 50 mm lift kit suspension upgrade.
You will have to upgrade the Navara suspension with 200-250 kg ball weight.
I am amazed and completely wrapped with Mazda as compared to the Navara.
Sorry to throw some doubt into your decision but Mazda all the way
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Ian
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 00:31

Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 00:31
"and surprisingly to me far more stable towing the van"

It is 2-300 kg heavier (depending on the model,) that may have something to do with it.
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Follow Up By: Member - iijmartin - Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 07:09

Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 07:09
Peter you are probably right with the weight explanation. It sure is less tiring towing with the Mazda. IMHO a stable tow set up is crucial.
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Reply By: jonl - Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 08:00

Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 08:00
Hi I had a 2010 STX 2.5 TD navara towing a 2.6 ton van, on the highway it towed very well, but on a dirt road we hit a large rut in the road and bent the chassis (it dropped down at the tow bar about 160 mm) it was 1 year old at the time and when I went to nissan about warranty he just laughed at me then I went to the insurance company and they would not fix it only give me money to straighten it they said that bent chassis in dual cabs was very common. ( I had air bags)
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:20

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:20
Did you have WDH fitted?
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Reply By: Member -Ted (Vic) - Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 08:18

Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 08:18
I personally would not buy another Nissan. Had a 3.0 l grenade never again.
Our 4wd club members have had nothing but trouble with theirs and Nissan support is mainly non existent.
Have a look here
http://complaintscorner.com/

Good luck with your decision.

Cheers
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Reply By: pepper2 - Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 08:58

Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 08:58
There was a post some weeks ago advising of very poor resale values for these vehicles might be worth considering.
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Reply By: bluefella - Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 09:49

Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 09:49
Hi Mick
I had a Nissan Navara TD, I sold it at 160,000 k's, no problems in that time. However it was all ways in the back of my mind that something major may go wrong, especially when towing, due to the well documented evidence. I think it's a big ask of 2.5 lt to tow 2.8t. If $$$$ allow the ford ranger 5 cyl. TD in my opinion is a good vehicle.
What ever you decide all the best for all your adventures.
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Reply By: Smouch - Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 22:40

Friday, Apr 05, 2013 at 22:40
Have a 2011 STX D40 King cab. For me it's been ideal,l pretty handy off road and does everything I want however the suspension was pathetic. To soft and underdamped. Now fitted better (taller) spings and Bilstien shocks. Transformed the thing. As a handy ute and weekender get away machine or even quick interstate dash it's great but I to would be reluctant to tow anything heavy with it. As I would be with most dual cabs but there's plenty of people doing so with no probs.
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Reply By: evaredy - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 12:58

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 12:58
Have you considered an Isuzu Dmax?

I was looking to buy our first 4x4 in Jan, I had narrowed it down to either the Navara or the BT50.
Whilst taking the BT50 for a test drive, I just happened to see a Isuzu Dmax in a car yard as we went past and it looked quite nice. I had never even heard of a Dmax, so I decided to put my decision on hold until I had researched it.

I wanted to find out what the differences were between the 3, so I spent some time looking at reviews/forums etc.

The Navara had a lot of negatives and especially the warranty support, or lack of. It seemed there were quite a few owners that were very unhappy for a lot of different reasons, so I decided against it.

It was down to the BT50 or the Dmax, after doing a lot more research I could not find anything negative about the Dmax and Isuzu have a very good track record as one of the best truck makers out there, they also have very reliable engines according to everything I have read.

So the things that made me choose the Dmax over the BT50

Warranty - 5 years plus 5 years roadside assist anywhere in Aust.
How it handled - It has plenty of grunt
4x4 - Excellent 4x4 capabilities
Price - quite a bit cheaper than the BT50
Extremely good underbody protection out of the factory
Looks - Looks great
Interior - has plenty of room even in the back (very Important) and the rear seats fold up.
Towing - 3000kg + 1000kg load total 5950kg Towball 300kg


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Follow Up By: mick - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 17:17

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 17:17
Gidday evaredy,

Funny you should say this. We did have a look at the DMax, however it was a little out of our price range. The Nissan D40 2.5 was the choice so far due to the price mainly. Yesterday morning I thought I would have a quick look to see if there were any used DMax for sale within our price range. We were lucky enough to find a NEW 2012 LS-M in a local yard that ended up being not much dearer than the D40.

As you mentioned, far better build, reliability and 2 more years warranty. The vehicle just seems to be a far better choice all round.

Mick
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Follow Up By: evaredy - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 23:57

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 23:57
If you're keen on a Dmax, don't let the price put you off.

Haggle the crap out of them, play one off the other, if one yard won't come down go to another, sooner or later you will get one that will be happy to give you a good deal.
These days you can just about do it all on the phone, I did :)

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Reply By: Ozrover - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 17:36

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 17:36
The main issues that we have found with the Navaras is:

- Loose fitting on the power steering pump (3), easy fix to tighten.
- Soft front suspension resulting in radiator oil cooler damage when hitting washouts at speed (heavier front suspension, slow down).
- Bent chassis (most small dual cabs have the same affliction) too much weight & air bags + hitting washouts at speed.
- Nissan! lol...

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Reply By: kookaburra - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 23:07

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 23:07
Reply, Nissan Navara, Glad you got to Complaints Corner quick enough, Ive just scaned and read several letters on the Nissan, 20 pages of complaints, Whats that tell ya. In Brisbane ,north side of the Gateway Bridge is a DMax Dealer,who has a DMax on the frount line with 1.2 or 1,4 Million KM on it, Ive had a good look at it, It has done it., and survived. Go have a look, its Blue.
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Reply By: fisherPete - Sunday, Apr 07, 2013 at 21:14

Sunday, Apr 07, 2013 at 21:14
We had six d40s and six d22s at work and found the 22s much more reliable. One of the 40s was at the dealers every week. Plus if the timing chain breaks and they do at 120000 to 140000ks it will cost you thousands.
Cheers Pete
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