Tigars 11 winches

Submitted: Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 17:37
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G'day fellas, it's the Old Dog here.
I've been toying for a while now with the ides of buying a winch for the Troopy. The only thing is, it's really just for my little woman's peace of mind, she gets a little edgy when we are out on our own and things get a bit scary. She often says things like, "What if we get stuck and we don't have a winch". As yet we haven't but I hesitate at buying one for the price; But these new Tigars 11 have a 1200lb er for $800 or there abouts.

Does anyone have any feed back that could either put my mind at ease, or steer me back to the trusted "Warn 8000lb" I've been looking at.

Looking forward to drawing from your wisdom.

The Old Dog
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 17:57

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 17:57
Well from what I have read I wouldnt touch them with a 9" angle grinder, some are OK and others break in quick time, and Tigerz after sales service .... well lets just say one feels like they've been serviced... Its woeful.

You could look at an Ironman, theyre better made and after sales service is second to none in my opinion. I have a Premier winch and would swear by them, strong and dependable and not a Warn price.

Theres other options, however if you want to visit the small claims tribunal or Department of Fair Trading them Tigerz is a sure bet.

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Follow Up By: Old dog - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:23

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:23
G'day mate, thanks for your input, I'm completely in the dark; until now!
Thanks mate.
My old mates words ring in my ears: "The poor man always pays twice"
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Follow Up By: Member - Hunter Gatherer - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 21:26

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 21:26
Old Dog (for a hard road) I have ordered a Runva 12,000lb winch with synthetic rope, after some research I feel that this brand is good value for money.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Apr 07, 2013 at 18:28

Sunday, Apr 07, 2013 at 18:28
Dead right old dog!
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Reply By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 18:05

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 18:05
I know people who have purchased Tigerz11 winches,some with good experiences some not so good, I have no personal knowledge....

But....

If you are keen on a decent winch look at the Smittybilt X20 10,000lb waterproof unit with plasma, made at the Warn factory who took over Smittybilt, ARB sell these for around $900.00 This will give you an nationwide ARB warrant.

Smittybilt web site

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Follow Up By: Old dog - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:25

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:25
G'day Tony, thanks for the wisdom. Looks good to me and the price is more my budget.

Thanks again
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Reply By: Derek J - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 18:36

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 18:36
Old dog
I'm in the same boat as you for the same reasons. We're going to the Cape in August and I can't decide whether or not to buy a winch. But to answer you question - if I do buy a winch it will be the one that came out best in the 4x4 Australia magazine test. I think it was called 'Premier Mako'. I've decided I would get it with the plasma rope as it lightens the weight of the unit considerably and I would also mount the winch into a cradle so as it can be fitted to either end of the car and also be removed when I'm back home. HTH
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Follow Up By: Member - kym111 - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 18:49

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 18:49
It was the Avenger Mako, and the brake is situated outside the drum, thus not heating up the Dynema cable and weakening it. We're getting the 12,000lb winch, as our rig is on the heavy side. I think it retails for around $1345 for this version, however the 9,500lb version with steel cable is more like $895.

Check it out here... http://www.avenger4x4.com.au/products/category/tds_series.

With the caravan/camping shows happening around the country at the moment, you might be able to get one at a better price.

Regards
Kym
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Follow Up By: Old dog - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:27

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:27
G'day Derek, there looks like there are other options out there, thanks heaps, I'll look them up and do some research.

Thanks again.
Old Dog
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Reply By: Member - Michael P (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:10

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:10
Old Dog,
I have a Tigers 11.
Have had to replace a solenoid on a routine maintenance binge, $30 or $40.
If I needed to buy another winch would I buy a Tigers 11? Absolutely.
ARB! What I have found if you buy from an ARB franchise (Think all their stores are) Go to another ARB franchise & you may as well of gone to a KFC store.
My tuppence worth.
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Follow Up By: Old dog - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:29

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:29
G'day Micheal, thanks for your advise. I will do some more research.

Thanks again.
Old Dog
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Reply By: Batt's - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:42

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:42
I was talking to a feller about a week ago with a GQ patrol he has a 12,000 lb winch from supercheap and said it has been faultless for the past 12 months.. I have a warn myself
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:46

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:46
I still throw the tirfor in for pulling backwards which I've had for 25yrs
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Reply By: Member - Chris (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:52

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 19:52
Hi Old Dog

I have had 3 different winches over the years, started off with a Warn Magnum 8000lb, Tigerz 11 12,000lb and currently have a 12,00lb Ironman.
I dismantle them from new for general inspection and check on lubrication. As I understand it the Magnum is a economy version, and it shows, in my opinion they are rubbish and would not recommend anyone getting one.
The Tigerz and Ironman both have sealed drum/gearbox, were well lubricated and have electronic contol box instead of the contact type of the Warn and much better and more reliable in my opinion.
I too only have a winch for piece of mind and do not go out of my way to get stuck and have rarely needed one but as the other day, glad I did, and the Ironman performed exceptionally well.
If I was to purchace a new one now it would be the Tigerz 11 Grande 12,000lb with the Dyneema rope, mainly due to the fact that is has an external brake that operates in both directions.

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Follow Up By: Old dog - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 20:25

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 20:25
G'day Chris, thanks for sharing your knowledge. This is real information because you've had 3 different kinds.
Thanks heaps.

Old Dog
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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 22:52

Saturday, Apr 06, 2013 at 22:52
I had a Tigerz on my last vehicle and it a strong winch but the after sales service was average so reluctant to buy another.
I had a spend this time and went the Warn as I feel more confident that I can get it serviced or repaired anywhere in Australia.
This may or may not matter for your use but imagine if you are up the top end of Aust and your winch plays up, even if it is under warranty you still need to return it to the manufacturer for appraisal which could be in Melbourne etc
Even if they repair it under warranty you will probably be winch less fr a opulent of weeks which could be a drama if you are on he road.
This is how I justified the 2 k Warn spend, your situation may be less critical?
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Follow Up By: Old dog - Monday, Apr 08, 2013 at 18:55

Monday, Apr 08, 2013 at 18:55
G'day Alby, you know you're right, even if it's cheap won't help if it gives up when you need it the most, and if you can't get after sale service it's useless.

Thanks for straight talk.

Old Dog
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Reply By: mountainman - Sunday, Apr 07, 2013 at 20:26

Sunday, Apr 07, 2013 at 20:26
tigerz are owned by EMG the 4wd action mag..
they also own the roo systems brand..
all have horrid reputation for after sales service.

i bought a premier as well as my boss at the time.
mine has been given an absolute flogging.
only had the drum brake stuck on once, overloaded it, trying to winch some privett out.
holy crap that stuff has some serious roots.. more than i ever got.....ha ha.
had one good one..

went to tjm shop where we done the deal.
asked to get it serviced..
they said they sold heaps, and never had any come back...

i knew i was on a good thing.
maintenance is always good.
theirs a second hand premier in the classifieds on here 700 is a bargain!! check the classifieds. cant go wrong.
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Reply By: Gadget Man - Monday, Apr 08, 2013 at 08:29

Monday, Apr 08, 2013 at 08:29
Hi old dog,

I had a tigers 11 on my 200 series land cruiser and I don't know why I even brought it in the first place. All i can say is You pay for what you get!

It worked once on one recovery and when I put my faith in it on our next trip crossing a creek/run off bank thinking i will just use the winch if i get bogged,it let me down! I had a gear problem and wouldn't engage in gear properly and at the same time had problem with both wireless and hard wired remote.
On other occasions on routinely unwinding the winch the electrics kept failing.

When you need your winch you want it to work, I ended up sending it back and getting a warm 12000 air cooled from ARB. Has never let me down on numerous recoveries.
If you buy from ARB then have a problem at least they will fix it as they are all over Australia.
Good luck!
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Follow Up By: Old dog - Monday, Apr 08, 2013 at 19:02

Monday, Apr 08, 2013 at 19:02
G'day Gadget Man, when you need it most it has to work. I don't want to put my trust in something that has such a mixed bag of responses; some guys are saying they're great, some say there's no after sale service and some say they're rubbish, in all it feels like they're suspect. I think I'll bite the bullet and get reliable.
My old mate would tell me, "The poor man always pays twice" great advice.

Thanks mate.

Old Dog
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris (QLD) - Monday, Apr 08, 2013 at 19:53

Monday, Apr 08, 2013 at 19:53
Hi again Old Dog, I think you need to compare apples with apples, originally you were asking about the Warn 8000lb, which I assume is the Magnum and would come in at $900. In my opinion the Tigerz 11 Grande is a far better and reliable winch.
Gadget man is talking about the Warn 12000lb air cooled which would be superiour to the Grande but I think they are up near the $3,000 so would want to be.
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Follow Up By: Old dog - Tuesday, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:35

Tuesday, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:35
G'day Chris, see I told you guys I didn't know anything about winches. Thanks for pointing that out.
The boys at ARB (Tassie) have told me that this 8000lb Warn will set me back around $2000 with me fitting it.
I really am a novice, I don't expect to be putting my old troopy into trouble deliberately but I do want to get out when I make a lousy judgement call.
Thanks again Chris, comparing apples with apples is the only fair thing to do.
Thanks.

Old Dog
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