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What are all the whingers about slow driving going to say about 36.5 metre long B-triples only being allowed to do 90kmh?
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Reply By: allein m - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 18:20

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 18:20
where will they be driving them be interesting seeing them come through Broken Hill and on to SA the road is bad enough for normal road trains
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 18:41

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 18:41
They have just been approved for Victorian roads with a 90kmh limit.

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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 19:15

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 19:15
They have been approved by the NSW State government for the Hume Highway only, between Sydney and Melbourne. I don't know when the start date is.

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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 19:27

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 19:27
By the looks of the posts above those roads approved are most likely multi lane highways won't they. I know the Hume will be and if it isn't by now then it will be multi lane and dual carriageway soon.

So to me it shouldn't really be an issue.

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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:10

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:10
Shaker,

Sure to be plenty of whinging about it, but if they're kept on multi-lane highways they'll only hold up the ones who don't adhere to the speed limits now anyway. At about 70 tonnes gross, they'll hold close to 90 on all but the steepest inclines.



But you'll see some daredevil driving by P platers and the like if they venture onto secondary roads. Often get passed on blind corners, over double lines and approaching crests between Mt Isa & the "Curry, usually by P platers.

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Follow Up By: Rockape - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:48

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:48
Hello Bob,
Bet they have second thoughts about passing you around Bull creek.

How do you like the new the 909's. I can give you something bigger, Yesterday at Brown and Hurley Rocky.

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Follow Up By: rotor138 - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 21:53

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 21:53
Hey Rockape is that a bigfoot triple?
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 21:58

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 21:58
Well that's a B triple on steriods, RA!!!!!

What with tri-drive and quad axles on the trailers. Reckon it would drive/steer real well, eh. And 600plus up front would be nice too.

Yeah, that Bull and Gidgea Creeks are a real nightmare, for everyone. Passing those ore trains at night are something else, 'cause on all the culverts "they" forgot to paint the fog line, so you don't know exactly what your steer tyre is about to run on.

909's are going good, with only minor problems. The oldest ones, about 15-18 months old have done over 400K clicks. Done a few turbo's, and one had a new clutch done last week in Darwin.

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Follow Up By: Jeff P - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 21:00

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 21:00
What a shame that you cant buy a Kenworth with a CAT anymore !
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Follow Up By: Member - eighty matey - Thursday, Apr 25, 2013 at 15:44

Thursday, Apr 25, 2013 at 15:44
Another at Halls Creek.

These blokes had a B Triple behind a Single.




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Follow Up By: Rockape - Friday, Apr 26, 2013 at 14:04

Friday, Apr 26, 2013 at 14:04
These have been running up and down from where I worked since 1998.

About a 360 K round trip. Single lane road and top speed of 90 Kph. It takes them a good few K to reach that.



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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Apr 26, 2013 at 14:30

Friday, Apr 26, 2013 at 14:30
Those are called "quads", Steve.
Here's another one, on way back to Toowoomba.



RA,

That's a bit of a history lesson eh. Seem to remember "they" started an Indigenous Training Scheme with those trucks too. Wonder what happened to that? Or was that scheme at Ernest Henry?

Ostojic(spelling??) seems to have most of the ore carting sewn up around the 'Curry these days.

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Follow Up By: Rockape - Friday, Apr 26, 2013 at 16:25

Friday, Apr 26, 2013 at 16:25
Bob,
have seen plenty of Ostojic tippers running around.

I had a some photos sent to me of a Mitchells powertrain but I can't find them. It was a mega truck as from memory it was 2 quads with another drive engine half way along. It sure was a big rig.

Pity as it was brand new and had a full set of photos showing everything.
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Friday, Apr 26, 2013 at 19:50

Friday, Apr 26, 2013 at 19:50
Just to give you the size of that C509 mining Kenny. Here is a photo of one beside a T604. Makes it look very small.

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Reply By: Rangiephil - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:13

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:13
Funny, I have very rarely if ever seen a B -Double doing 100Kmh in NSW except when up the clanger of a car baulking him/her.

So it is just as unlikely that a B-Triple will actually do 90Kmh in NSW, probably 110Kmh.

Of course in Victoria "The Police State" they will probably do 90Kmh

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 04:03

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 04:03
this is a common misconception
on the flat a b double will do about 103kph which is about 110 on an averadge cars speedometre so your averadge joe doing 105-110 does have the b doubles up tbhier clacker and thinks their speeding - often they are but by no more tan a few kph
- they just have better speedos than cars
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Reply By: Rockape - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:39

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:39
No problems at all. Here is the B-triple/ road train roads in Qld that have been around for awhile. Sit back and enjoy the view from behind and relax. No use rushing to Hades, it is hot enough up here.

Road train/ B triple routes
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Follow Up By: Dingojim - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 14:56

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 14:56
Rockape you are 110% my friend. I have absolutely no problems with the Triples/Rt's on the Kennedy/ Gregory/ Flinders Highways. They pass me often as the Mercedes is 100 limited but never a drama, in fact regularly have a chat with the 'Big Banger pilots'. The UHF is a real asset and used sensibly takes a touch of tension out of driving even though I will admit I am not fully up with the play on calling points but will solve that when I get a chance to share a coffee with one of the pilots. Nothing wrong with hanging 250 metres behind these guys and admiring the driving skills. Cheers.
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Reply By: 08crd - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:40

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 20:40
Try the roads around Kalgoorlie, B quads. eek.
It is scary as hell overtaking them.
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Reply By: rotor138 - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 21:55

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 21:55
Had triples here in SA for years with out to many dramas, although one driver appeared to fall asleep recently and put one on it's side.
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Reply By: Tim - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 21:56

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 21:56
In NSW they are legal on many other roads other then the multi lane roads spoken about above.
I can't remember the exact details, I am pretty confident the Newell and all highways west can have them and even some to the east providing they are fitted with and endorsed as IAP (Intelligence Access Program). These are basically GPS units which tracks their every move and the RTA/RMS can look at live online.

In saying all that, what's the issue with a truck doing 90 when you have vans doing 80?
Tim
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 22:15

Monday, Apr 22, 2013 at 22:15
IAP, Tim eh? That's a pretty flash title for what most drivers would call "bloody sat-trackers".

Have checked out "Hawk-Eye" that monitors trucks for company I work for(and no doubt many others) and it tells you the truck's speed, status ie if stopped, whether it's idling or switched off. Red flag for speeding, blue for okay.

Saw a "scalie" the other day, near Cloncurry, and he was staring at a screen in the back of the uite, both times I passed the pads. Maybe this is what he found so interesting. Couldn't be a "blue' movie could it, not in a government vehicle?

Also got cameras in the cabs too, so one has to be careful when scratching one's balls, or picking one's nose :-)

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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 17:06

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 17:06
Word has it that they will be on the Newell by December, something about some bridge upgrades slowing the start up.

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Follow Up By: Tim - Wednesday, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:26

Wednesday, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:26
I have seen them up near Moree but a "broken" bridge near Dubbo rings a bell.
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Reply By: Dingojim - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 04:57

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 04:57
Fair bloody dinkum Getoutmore if you reckon the fact??? that trucks have superior speedometers to cars and thereby gives them the right to tailgate then your logic is so severely flawed as to allow you to vote Labor next September.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 13:05

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 13:05
Not saying it doesnt happen but another common misconception. Just because there big and fill the rear view mirror doesnt make them any closer than the huyundai that was looking to pass a few ks back
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 17:33

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 17:33
Donkey vote more up your alley then Dingojim?
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Follow Up By: Dingojim - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 17:46

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 17:46
Well if they were to nominate a donkey or 3 it would be an improvement on the galahs we've got now.
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:49

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:49
Quote - they just have better speedos than cars unquote

Ah if only it were so. I always have a GPS checking my speed and yes I do usually exceed the posted limit on my car speedo, but I very often accompany semis and B doubles who are doing a REAL 110Kmh. My "test track" is the F3 North of Sydney and one of the busiest truck routes in Australia.
The best at 100KMh seem to be Australia Post and some of the big companies like Tolll , but there are many who must fiddle the speed limiters, even after the recent crackdown.

Of course there are lots of local transport tippers etc that AFAIK are not speed limited and they REALLY go.
Regards Philip A
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Follow Up By: Dave(NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 13:08

Tuesday, Apr 23, 2013 at 13:08
Speedlimiters are set a couple of ks over 100 to allow for tyre wear and only work properly on a dead flat road, The slightest down hill and the truck can over run the limiter. In other words the bigger the down hill the faster they can go.
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Reply By: blown4by - Thursday, Apr 25, 2013 at 15:02

Thursday, Apr 25, 2013 at 15:02
WA has had 53.5m Road Trains for many years which are permitted to travel at 100kph. With engines up to 730hp they have no trouble maintaining that speed. Granted there are less hills in WA. The biggest problem is those towing vans around AUS who have to sit up each others backsides like dogs sniffing each others bums when the law requires vehicles exceeding 7.5m in length to travel 200m apart except when overtaking.
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