Landcruiser 105 wheel alignment
Submitted: Sunday, Apr 28, 2013 at 21:59
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Member - Bruce B5
Hi could any one tell me were I can get my 105 series live axle cruiser wheel alignment done because it wonders on the bitumen roads I have a 50 mm lift I have had my local Toyota dealer look at the front end & they said it is fine little slop in steering box only problem they could find tyres are good no uneven wear on them the local tyre
places only do the toe adjustment they can't do camber alignment 4wd shops in my local area do not do 4wd wheel alignment I live in the wimmera area the cruiser has 350000 K.l.m on it
Thanks for looking Bruce B
Reply By: Ross M - Sunday, Apr 28, 2013 at 23:00
Sunday, Apr 28, 2013 at 23:00
G'day Bruce
From what you have described it hasn't got enough caster angle and the main
suspension arms require a set of offset bushes fitted. Cheapest solution, modified arms are a dearer solution but they don't require the eccentric bushes.
New arms have a greater curve to make it correct.
These when pressed in (where the originals are) change the axles position by effectively leaning it backwards at the top. This gives it, restores, approximately the 2 degrees caster you lost when the lift was fitted.
These 4 bushes have eccentric holes in and have to be pressed in, in a specific position so the correction occurs.
Apart from toe in, which anyone can do, there isn't any wheel alignment required IF the caster is corrected. You may be able to purchase the required bushes and have a competent local press them in for you.
4 bolts and two large nuts on the rear of the arms to undo and remove replace plus some jack stands etc will be needed to use while you do the job.
Ross M
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 05:37
Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 05:37
Exactly,
well said.
I did the offset bushes...several sets in fact, and also the offset swivel hub bearings gets you some castor AND camber adjustment.
The bushes are available as rubber (Pedders) or poly type from a few suppliers. The rubber lasts longer than the poly, the offset design has the inner pin close to the outer, and with flex they deteriorate. The offset swivel hub bearings, have the cone as an eccentric, and they cracked at the narrowest area of the eccentric.
My vehicle does cop a harsh flogging.
Best result is to pony up and buy new purpose designed arms with the built in extra few degrees castor, and it runs the original rubber bushes.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce B5 - Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:13
Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:13
Hi
Ross M thank you for your coment I have not been told this before so I will get some of the offset busters fitted hopefully this will fix it
Thank u Bruce B
Hi Andrew L
I would like to thank you for your comments to
Bruce B
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 20:42
Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 20:42
Drop your front tyre pressures to 32-34 psi and see if that improves things before you change the castor bushes.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce B5 - Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 23:58
Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 23:58
Hi phil G
I will give it a go if it works a cheap fix what would u run in the rear the same & what about towing I will let u know how I go Thanks Bruce B
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013 at 23:34
Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013 at 23:34
If you have zero load in rear run 36psi;
with drawers etc in rear, go 40 psi;
if loaded to the hilt, put 45-50psi in rear.
If towing, keep front at 32-34 and depending on ballweight, adjust rears as above.
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Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 21:33
Monday, Apr 29, 2013 at 21:33
Bruce,
I have an 80 series with 260000 kms and a 60 mm lift (done 14 years ago) and I felt no change at all in steering even though the castor was 3 deg out. Return to centre was normal and it never wandered BUT I recently put a set of poly bushes including castor correction bushes in the front leading arms and noticed an improvement immediately.
Before anything else
check the bushes front and back.
Mine looked OK but were torn when I removed the arm to fit the poly bushes. I got them on fleabay for 25% the price of Toyota ones.
Just my 2 bobs worth from 15 years first hand experience.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce B5 - Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013 at 00:09
Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013 at 00:09
Hi there Ian H
I will look at this I have not thought about the back ones only the front bushes
Thanks for the info Bruce B
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Reply By: jacent - Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013 at 16:54
Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013 at 16:54
Hi mate I have a 105 land cruiser that pulls to the left, had caster correction fitted when lifted but pulls left, had three wheel alignments and comes back the same pulling left, might try the bushes n see what happens
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