100 Series LC Auto Not Changing Out of 3rd Gear
Submitted: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 16:45
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Member - Rob D (NSW)
I am currently in
Mitchell west of
Roma QLD; a long way from
home in
Canberra.
My 2003 100 series Sahara TD auto is not changing up to 4th or 5th gear.
If I put the lever into 3rd gear and accelerate up to say 3500 revs and then take my foot off the accelerator the vehicle slows down and the revs reduce only a small amount.
If I put the lever into 4th or 5th gear the revs do not change from what they were in accelerating in 3rd gear, but if I take my foot off the accelerator the engine revs drop right back to idle speed. There is no deceleration, as if the vehicle is in neutral.
The vehicle did the same thing last year, but then the problem magically disappeared. I had no problem on our
Cape York or
Vic High Country trips since that time.
I have checked the LCOOL site and found roughly similar problems, with no consistent solution.
I have been talking remotely to an auto transmission expert who has given me some valuable
information on running various tests (including resetting the engine CPU) to try to determine the problem; however it appears that it is either a computer problem or else a gearbox problem.
I have booked the vehicle into the closest Toyota Service organisation.
Has anyone else had this problem; if so then how was it fixed. It appears that I may be up for about $10k worst case.
Reply By: Axle - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 19:21
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 19:21
G/Day Rod,, Those 5speeders can do some weird and wonderful things,
mine used to do what your saying, after pulling over and turning the motor off waiting a minute
it used to sort of reset its self and would be right for a few months. there was a period when it did play up regulary over a couple of weeks, but after changing the transfer case oil , it was fine for a long time...?????...could never work that one out as i said a weird gearbox at times. Make more enquirys before you part with ten grand, here on the Central Coast NSW, I've heard the figure six thousand, mentioned for one of those
gearboxes.....Hope all works out.
Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 19:40
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 19:40
Sorry...Rob..
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Follow Up By: Member - Rob D (NSW) - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 19:40
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 19:40
Thank you for your reply Axle. The transmission fluid was changed at 60,000 km, it now has 165,000 on the clock.
I am hoping it won't cost 10 grand, I have heard of cheaper units, not including labour. I believe that the genuine Toyota is in excess of seven grand, not including labour.
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Follow Up By: Mattgm - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 20:22
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 20:22
G'day Rob D,
I would give Wholesale Automatics in
Melbourne a call and ask to speak with Rodney.......what he doesn't know about these transmissions is not worth knowing. I have used them twice, once for an Extreme Trans rebuild on an 80 Series and more recently for an Extreme Valve Body on a 100 Series. A very satisfied customer and I am pretty sure it wouldn't cost you anywhere near $10k if you can get to them of course. I have no affiliation with Wholesale Automatics.
Regards, Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Rob D (NSW) - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 20:45
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 20:45
Thank you for your suggestion Geoff.
Rodney is the expert I was referring to. I am along way from
Melbourne though.
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Follow Up By: Nutta - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 20:52
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 20:52
After over a 100k on the last oil change I would do that just for the hell of it, you never know it may fix it.
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Follow Up By: Mattgm - Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 21:06
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 21:06
Yes I agree with Nutta, 100,000km since last ATF change is a lot of km even for fully synthetic and probably with some severe service work towing a van? I would ask for a trans fluid flush and if that model trans has a filter to change have that done as
well. Good luck.
Geoff
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Follow Up By: Member - Rob D (NSW) - Thursday, May 23, 2013 at 16:30
Thursday, May 23, 2013 at 16:30
I agree that it would have been a good idea to change the transmission fluid before this time, even though Toyota claim it is sealed for life. They no longer have a dip stick, so it is not easy to see the colour of the fluid or to smell it to see if it is OK.
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