Monday, Jul 22, 2013 at 20:47
Hi Everyone,
The
camp ground at King Edward is run by DEC now called since 1 st July Dept of Parks and Wildlife.
As far as I can see no one is as you say 'cashing in' , I'd bet it's costing them more to run and install all the new facilities than they will get out of it for years. They also put in all those new gravelled
parking areas near the art sites as the vehicle numbers were disturbing a lot of area and the wet was then ripping the loose ground up.
It's low cost to stay there after all.
The
toilet was in the past useable and clean because DEC always used to send someone down to clean it every few days before they had a
camp host there to do the job.
Yes I do agree larger areas are nicer so that people are not crammed in.
The present
toilets ( that they were pumping out) are in fact a very temporary measure to cope with the numbers while they install more flash new ones. The numbers that use that area are now large and no it wouldn't have coped with the lack of
toilets much longer, you only have to look at the Gibb
River Crossing at the end of each dry season to see what is now happening to unattended areas. It's disgusting.
The blokes with logos are Parks & Wildlife employees / rangers. The
campground hosts are sort of volunteers, they just get a small amount for food and do this job because they like being there or other similar
places.
Michael, you are lucky the rangers didn't catch you camped at Surveyors as that is a no no and there are signs everywhere there saying NO camping and fines apply.
Part of this whole problem is everyone wants a spot to themselves but 85% of people then leave their mess behind, then complain when someone takes it on and tries to keep clean etc, therefore charges for the service.
I have said it before that while some of you are very clean many many others are not and that is only part of the problem.
I know for a fact those rangers spent weeks last wet season pulling and spraying all the nasty weeds and prickles brought in on campers swags, tents etc etc. Some of those seeds are viable for 7 years !
If no one takes on and controls this weed problem the whole North
Kimberley is going to be wrecked. Never used to be nasty Starr bur etc up there, now there is heaps and the more uncared for
places people
camp, the more the weed problem spreads.
All around it's a no win situation, people want private camps, all on land others are paying rent or upkeep for but many still expect those camps to be for free. Then they go
home and leave someone else to clean up the weed problem etc. Most people have no idea at all that they have even brought the weeds with them.
By the way as for the campers at KE subsidising the buses it's probably the other way around. While many of the tours do not
camp at the King Edward it's all the same fund bucket and all those tour companies then take their many guests on up to the
Mitchell where they also pay entry fees etc etc.
You also could have used those KE
toilets for free if you had just been passing by on the way to
Mitchell same as they did. It will be the money from the
Mitchell that will be subsidising the KE
camp ground improvements at present.
Also last but not least the money from the camping fees at both
places also helps cover maintaining the
Mitchell plateau track which is now graded a couple of times or more a season instead of once every second year as it was in the past.
cheers, Anne
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Follow Up By: Michaeljp - Tuesday, Jul 23, 2013 at 16:24
Tuesday, Jul 23, 2013 at 16:24
Hi Anne,
Thanks for
clearing this up and setting me straight on the DEC blokes who are working there and doing a good job. I just get very cynical when something that has been free for so long suddenly changes to a pay for use area. I understand that with so many people visiting the area something had to be done or we would be camping amongst filth eventually.
I did see the No Camping signs at Surveyors
Pool, but i got back to the car park after dark, having walked down stream from the falls looking for
rock art and just rolled the swag out till morning then went onto
Walsh Point.
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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 23, 2013 at 18:09
Tuesday, Jul 23, 2013 at 18:09
Thank you, Anne, another very helpful contribution.
We are just returning from a trip to the far NW of Qld and are realising that things are changing. The sheer numbers of people mean that the beautiful parts of our country are being loved to death. We have to accept reasonable change and we must be prepared to pay for change lest these treasures be ruined forever.
Min
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Follow Up By: Tjukayirla Roadhouse - Wednesday, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:25
Wednesday, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:25
Sadly people will always ignore "no camping" areas, ruining
places for everybody altogether in the future. Then they'll get on the internet and complain about it.
Anne, thanks for a great explanation.
Cheers
Al
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