What the hell is it?

Submitted: Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 17:06
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G'day team,

So I have upgraded from a 1999 hilux to a 2009 Defender 130 with all the bells and whistles. The new rig seriously has everything.

I just have a question. The defender has what looks like 2 snorkels. The standard one on the right and some sort of beefed up filtered air intake setup on the left side of the bonnet.

Can anyone tell me what the second ?snorkel on the left side might be and what it does?

Cheers!
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Reply By: Notso - Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 17:13

Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 17:13
Could be a cabin air intake?
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Follow Up By: toffytrailertrash - Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 17:32

Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 17:32
Jump over onto the AULRO forum and ask over there, you will get all the answers.

Cheers

Merv
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Reply By: Ross M - Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 17:57

Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 17:57
Have a look under the bonnet and see where the ducting goes to. If the two of them are to catch air they have to go to engine or cabin, just logical.
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 19:18

Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 19:18
hi
hasn't got bi-turbo has it with air intake snorkels both sides ??????
lol
seperate air supply for the missus ???
diff breathers???
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Reply By: Anthony F1 - Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 19:26

Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 19:26
Thanks for the replies.

I tried to post a photo but i'm not a financial member. Here is a link to the dealerships website with the photos. On the front on photos you can see the "snorkel" in question.

http://www.inventorysearch.com.au/view.php/pacifictoyota_used_cars/2009_Land_Rover_Defender_130_09MY_Crew_Cab_Alaska_White_6_Speed_Manual_Cab_Chassis/6783510/

Cheers!
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Follow Up By: Member - Murray M2 - Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 19:45

Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 19:45
surely your dealer can tell you??????????????
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Follow Up By: Anthony F1 - Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 19:59

Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 19:59
The salesman admitted that he was told by the mechanics what it was but couldn't remember exactly what it is. I am test driving it again on Monday to seal the deal. The thing ran out of fuel on my first test drive. There was a few embarassed people at the dealership that day.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scoey4 (SA) - Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 20:45

Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 20:45
The salesman doesn't know what it was and it ran out of fuel on test drive - and you are buying from these people - WHY????
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Follow Up By: 4wheeler - Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 21:45

Sunday, Aug 04, 2013 at 21:45
The entry point on the passenger side guard is normally for the intake to the fresh air/heater. The item attached is very much non standard and has what looks like a Donaldson air filter box fitted to it with filter. I can't believe it is plumbed into the turbo as the driver side snorkel has no such protection.

I can only guess that it is to provide fresh clean intake air to the Defender based on what I can see. Given it is a 2009 model, dust will get in at almost every point around the doors and rear door, so I can't see the point. Also the air flow into that vent is not good from new so sticking all that other stuff there will make it worse I would have thought.

Land Rover Defenders are a specialist vehicle, more because they are basically hand made and every one is a bit different. If the dealer does not know much about them and you are unsure of the vehicle history it could all end in tears.

Check that the clutch operation and that there is no "rattle" from the clutch at idle, there is no leak from the rear diff pinion and output shaft from the transfer case (oil on the handbrake drum).Check that there is no oil weep at the vacuum pump on the upper passenger side front of the engine. Poor performance could be due to the EGR valve which was also troublesome on some vehicles. If it has been chipped, this can cause turbo problems.

Check for rust spots just below the windscreen behind the dash as you can get water leaking in there past the lower foam seal. The bulkhead is steel as are all doors and bonnet. Also check under the rubber mat in the foot well for water ingress.

Gear changes for that model can be a little notchy and gear changes should be slow and gentle. If you get major clunking from the drive train this could be cause for concern. Thrashed vehicles can get wear on the splines of the drive shafts and axles.

Check around the chassis at the rear springs for cracking as heavy work can cause damage.

Do your homework. They are a fantastic vehicle but not for everyone.

Good luck.
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 07:04

Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 07:04
I'd also check with Landrover Australia that it is a vehicle they brought into Australia just in case it is a grey import. I've seen a few imported that were written off in other countries and offered for sale here...

Just a thought!
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 16:28

Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 16:28
love the work done to the back of it, well set up and plumbed, wiring looks like it is done very well and all you will ever need .....
Underneath looks exceptionally clean for a 4x4 that has done some work, almost to clean, I know they can clean stuff up pretty good now but that is spotless ...mmmmmmm
It does look like a cab filter set-up to pressurize the cab with clean filtered air, actually a very good idea as well, if you have good seals on doors and body you can have it on "fresh" full fan blast and pressurize the cabin and it will reduce the water leaking in on a deep water crossings .....
I don't have a clue about them so good luck, if a cruiser and was set up like that I would buy it, love the back..
Now I want to see under the bonnet to see what other ideas they have done, please become a member and post up some under bonnet piccys :-)
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 16:31

Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 16:31
sorry to hijack this thread ..... hey "Landy" I tried to send you a message but I cant for some reason, anyway we are no longer at Doomadgee, we are now working up in the Cape York, send us and e-mail to joeandmelissa@bigpond.com and I will answer your questions ..
Cheerz
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Reply By: Penchy - Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:10

Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:10
why don't people do their own research anymore?

Don't listen to these other guys suggestions, their trying to lead you up the garden path. The passenger side snorkle directs air onto the inside side walls of the tyres to blow the dust and muck off. Landrover assume you will keep the outside clean, they are doing their bit to keep the insides clean. Pretty simple really.
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Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 11:39

Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 11:39
ROFLMAO!!!!
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Follow Up By: Anthony F1 - Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 18:54

Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 18:54
ummm......eh?
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 19:15

Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 19:15
but the problem with your system, is that it is only set-up to do the front left hand wheel. You need 3 more air ram fluctuators (their proper technical name) for the other wheels.

you might want to get the rusty bull bar replaced as well as it makes they car look s***e
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Reply By: Anthony F1 - Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 18:44

Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 18:44
Cheers for all the feedback guys.

The story behind the car is that the old owner bought it new and spent the past 3 years (and countless thousands) getting this car ready for a big trip up to the Cape and then over to Broome. Unfortunately he got sick towards the end of the project and then passed away before the car could see any action.

That would explain the immaculate underbody.
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 20:41

Monday, Aug 05, 2013 at 20:41
Gday Anthony, I'm always a sceptic when listening to stories from car dealers and real estate agents, if you havent already it may pay to check further on the facts behind the history. The deceased estate is a common story.

Anyway regardless of where it came from I hope it becomes a great getaway vehicle for you.
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