Camping/travel with kids

We don't know all of your situation alarna , but if you could arrange it sleeping inside the car , even just the Kids is a wonderful idea - its quieter safter cosier and usually less trouble - you may have to make a bit of a platform or some special bits.

One other thing that works is cheap little UHF handhelds for kids , they can talk to you from bed , or when travelling with others , to a nearby car with other kids, keeps them in their loop.

I have always just had dome tents. One for me, kids in others.

Hi Alarana

If you were outside their tent, they are protected. Where are you going that you feel their may be a threat to their safety? Sorting this out alone may be enough.

Motherhen

The Oztent is a great product, until you start using all the add on's, then they eat up the time in your set up / pack up

The double swag is more like a king single, even with me and my 9yr old it is cramp

We took bunks all the way through Cape a few years ago, by the time we got back i gave them away never wanting to see them again

We now have an Oztrail tourer 9 plus for the four of us touring, and 4 x self inflating mats from Blackwolf. We just used that for our most recent trip and worked the best for us.

The tent can go up with 4 pegs, 1 middle pole and a u shaped pole at the back

Good luck

OK thanks people. The kids would still be in the tent, and I want to get up the nerve to try outside the tent. I'm not worried about me and other people but because of my past and emotional trauma its very hard to get over something that's been ingrained in you. There most likely wont be other people anywhere LOL.
I do like my oztent and even though we looked at black wolf I feel like I am cheating on my tent HAHAHA. I really do not like the bunks as good as they are they are a bugger to cart around if we don't have to.
I also want to look at over night trips when hubby can't/doesn't want to come so it will be just me and the kidws so I though swags are a lot easier to manage, if its good weather I wont need the tent just a tarp on the ground. (once I get over my hurdle)
We were looking at a swag tent also...they are bigger then a double swag and very open if required.