landrover discovery 4 tires

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 12, 2013 at 14:51
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now has a 255/55R19 XL or 275/45R20 Xl so why put a tire and rim on a car that you are limited in tire choice considering they say it is a fantastic 4x4 for go any where as long as you do not have tire problems

I often see posts regarding tire size and often wonder why manufacturers do not look at what is out there suited to there product and work with that , make more sense to me .

I saw a new discovery 4 in the main street with two large tires on the roof rack no room for any thing else ,I did not see the driver but I would say that if he did end up having to replace his tires there is no chance of getting any out past Broken Hill even in town I would say they would have to order them in .

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Reply By: toffytrailertrash - Thursday, Sep 12, 2013 at 15:17

Thursday, Sep 12, 2013 at 15:17
You can have a hard enough time getting the 19's in a Capital city, there are only I think four brands available. General, Cooper, Pirelli's and one other I cannot remember. There is an 18" Compromotive rim available from a dealer in WA that has been specifically made for the LR4 with the V6 because it has a much larger break calliper.

Cheers
Merv
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Reply By: olcoolone - Thursday, Sep 12, 2013 at 17:47

Thursday, Sep 12, 2013 at 17:47
Most who buy a Discovery will not be using it for serious off roading, a few might which is a shame as the Discovery is a brilliant off roader.

Manufacturers will design to the majority..... not the minority.

The last time I had a puncture on bitumen or a good sealed road was yonks ago, yes it does happen but few and far between.

Wait until they go to a space saver!

Remember back in the 80's when I ran 15 inch tyres, they were expensive and not readily available.

6 years ago we had a new high performance sedan that came with a very specific tyre size and compound, at 12,000 kilometers we destroyed one tyre and there was only one available that they (Bridgestone) would not sell to us and 20 tyres were due into Australia in about 4 months...... went back to the dealer and they ended pulling one of a new car in storage, it cost us nearly $800 for that tyre.
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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Thursday, Sep 12, 2013 at 19:18

Thursday, Sep 12, 2013 at 19:18
It works the other way round. The vehicle manufacturer dictates a tyre size that best suits their vehicle design and the tyre manufacturers fall into line with providing the relevant sizes to get the aftersales business
Another issue is it may not be a popular size here but may well be overseas in other markets.
I know it does not help your cause here though.
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Reply By: snow - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 08:42

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 08:42
Yep, bought a Rav a couple of years ago & gave no consideration to the 17" tyres. When they needed replacement were circa $350 each just for your standard Bridgestone type radial...nothing extreme. Could have knocked me over with a feather.
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:15

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:15
What goes around comes around ,model T fords had what size tires ? Since then tyre and wheel sizes decreased down to 13 inches as in early Holdens , nowadays wheel sizes are back on the increase to accommodate the ever increasing disc brake size needed to stop the vehicle ,was only a few yrs ago that people were complaining about how hard it was to source a 16 - 17 inch tyre which is nowadays extremely common ,, try buying a 13 inch nowadays ,, not easy .
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 13:54

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 13:54
I just wish one manufacturer would attempt to make a vehicle ready for the bush. Nissan has completely dropped out of the market by not offering a diesel. With Toyota, the 200 series suspension breaks too easily and the V8 engine is too big and heavy, the VJD76's V8 engine is too big and heavy (thirsty and drinks oil), Prado IFS/transmission too easily broken. Landrover Disco has ridiculous wheels, Defender issues with transmission and 2.2 L donk lacking grunt. Amarok, close to perfect but ute only when wagon is wanted. And the Unimog and H1 Hummer are too expensive!

So give me an Amarok wagon, or a VJD76 with a 3.0 L donk, or a D4 with 16"wheels and no carpets. Or a Defender with a D4 engine. How hard would it be to release an Australianised version of one of the above? At the moment everything is a huge compromise.

Allein, its not just the tyres being hard to replace - there are no tyre stores 500 km west of Alice Springs - its that 45 profile tyres are not suitable for any off bitumen driving, and 55s are nowhere near as good as 75s.

Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 14:49

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 14:49
Not sure of your other statements Bob, but I own a 200 and have an interest in the 200 section on LCOOL, the Landcruiser forum.

There must be over 1500 200 owners with over 20,000 posts specific to the Lnadcruiser 200 which I read once or twice a week. I have never ever seen a complaint from any one person about the suspension breaking.

Surely if it broke too easily then ONE person would raise it. Me thinks you have that completely wrong.

Mate of a mate?

Oh, and the big, heavy twin turbo V8 diesel you are referring to? Bring it on baby. It's a beautiful engine.

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Follow Up By: allein m - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 15:13

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 15:13
that is some thing I would love to see a 4x4 that you do not have to spend a small fortune making ready for driving in the Australian outback

but it seems most at designed to take the kids to school and home

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Follow Up By: toffytrailertrash - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 15:52

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 15:52
Apparently according to the vehicle manufacturers we are all getting soft and don't want to go and play in the rough stuff anymore.

Cheers
Merv
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Follow Up By: allein m - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 16:10

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 16:10
i can say from experience it is amazing the amount of 4x4 heading out of the city to the out back I see it most days here in Broken Hill all the time

all type of 4x4 from very expensive to some nice old landcruser lots of the 2006 standard come through this way
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 16:48

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 16:48
Suspension breaks...... not another problem with the 200's that nobody knows about.

Prado breaking IFS and Trans......

Don't know where you source your info!

Everyones an expert......
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Follow Up By: allein m - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 17:48

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 17:48
Experts....'ex' is a has been, 'spurt' is a drip under pressure
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 18:24

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 18:24
Everyone says that there is no market for off road worthy vehicles yet ARB makes a fortune providing just that. I would have thought the manufacturers could do that cheaper and have it designed into the product.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 18:59

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 18:59
Bob I think you answered your own question to some extent, there are plenty of options to choose from it is just us fussy buggers that don't like this, don't like that and all have a different perception / opinion of what it should have as standard.
Personally I am happy to customize with aftermarket accessories to suit my own tastes and needs
Also the reality is the soccer mums buy more than we do so they are going to sell to the masses
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 08:41

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 08:41
http://www.ohwhatalemon.com/
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:06

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:06
That site is a beauty. It must be true right? It's on the internet.

It's been around for years.

Oh what a nutta.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:38

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:38
I don't think you can take that 'Oh what a lemon' site as a gauge of any value.
There is not a car on the road that you won't find a disaster story of some kind, that goes for restaurant reviews or anything for that matter
You need to look to forums like this one or in the Landcruiser's case LCOOL to get a more balanced view of the good and the bad points of a particular model.
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Follow Up By: allein m - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:44

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:44
I have tried several time to join the site but do not get a reply from the site after I fill the form in . would love to be able to see it for my self

yes as I have limited experience in 4x4 but to read what a lemon site you have to wonder how much is true

some time too much information can be bad

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Reply By: allein m - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:45

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:45
LCOOL is the site I tried to join
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