Stand alone GPS touch screen for oziexplorer maps

but a very expensive way of achieving that

the same thing can be achieved for around $100 getting a 7 inch navigatot off of ebay

Hi get out more

Are you sure that you can get a $100 7" off of ebay, preloaded with OziEzplorer and all the full set of Hema Maps???...I would think not.


Cheers


Stephen

sorry for some reason I thought he had the maps,

well in that case do make your own hema navigator with purchased maps would cost around $300 or about $350 if you got one with a reversing camera

compared to the cost of a Hema navigator for around $650 with a smaller screen

Stephen said : Hi get out more

Are you sure that you can get a $100 7" off of ebay, preloaded with OziEzplorer and all the full set of Hema Maps???...I would think not.


Cheers
Yes you can
We all did . Don't ask me how , I don't know , but a dozen or so of us did - works a treat .

Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) posted:
Hi get out more

Are you sure that you can *LEGALLY* get a $100 7" off of ebay, preloaded with OziEzplorer and all the full set of Hema Maps???...I would think not.

Fixed Stephen......

Yep I've got one and got one for 2 of my mates. We all had our own maps and Ozi so just loaded it onto the E Bay Chinese knock off. Cost less than $80 delivered for the GPS and it's a little ripper.

Still run my laptop as well and hope to get an Android set-up in the not too distant future though.

Cheers

Dunc.

I have the 7" Nexus with Ozi and its excellent! After a HP HX4700 its a HUGE screen, and that said it fits on the dash and doesnt stop much forward vision at all. I have found its very hungry for elkectricity when running full time, so have a 1.5m lead which connects to a 12v outlet. for me its perfect.

Bonz

I would agree with Boobook here , I have a asus TF 300 android transformer wifi only 10 inch screen , it has standard USB ,SD card slots 2 batteries .
it has a true GPS built in that receives better on the seat than my proper gps does on the dash . Note ...plastic case tablet not metal !!
But asus need 15 volt to charge a bit of a problem in a car .
The more i use it the better i like it & has so many usages .
Hema IMO are over priced .

Nick, agree about the charging. Actually it is 12V. Had me stumped for a while....You can buy a 12V car charger on ebay for about $10 that fixes the problem.

Boobook : can you give any more info on this charger ?
I'v been told that there 15volt , my tablet wont charge in the car on 12v to 13 volts even with a 2.3 ma usb .

I was going to get small inverter to do the re charge .

I'm using twonav on my tablet for navigation & log trip etc , works very good .

Sorry for the delay, I didn't see your follow up.

I bought one of these. Works a treat and charges the Asus at about the same rate as the 240V charger.

Ebay 12v car charger

That is the exact one I got. I think I will get another, it works perfect but it has been yanked around a bit by the kids. For $9 delivered I would like a spare.

Thanks a lot for the heads up Boobook , had a look myself few days ago
they range from your type chines under $ 10 to more than $ 40 from us etc ..... for that price buy a few of them for spares
cheers

Advantage of either the Android pad or the iPad (if you've money to burn) is that they are useful for stuff OTHER than just navigating.
The HN is a single purpose item, so can't be used to surf the net, or play mahjong, to while away the hours when out and about.
We bought an Android 7inch pad, loaded ozi explorer, Hema maps, a free nav app for around towns, and some games for when there's no TV worth watching. I've also just got a "reader" type app so I can download some pdf books and read them at night.
Try that on the Hema Nav!

johnat

Money to burn? At the prices I've listed there is less than the cost a tank of fuel between the top of the line iPad and the cheapest 'named android' equivalent. Some people don't buy the cheapest car, the cheapest tyres, the cheapest off road accessories. Purchasing decisions are generally a compromise between cost, quality and other variables. You'd hardly accuse every Toyota driver of having 'money to burn' because they chose a Toyota ahead of a Great Wall!

Bob

Steady on Bob. An Android device is hardly the equivalent of a Great Wall 4x4. It is an alternative technology that works very well. Apple products have always been over priced. They get away with it because they promote them as yuppie toys.
Kevin

Echucan Bob posted:
"johnat

Money to burn? At the prices I've listed there is less than the cost a tank of fuel between the top of the line iPad and the cheapest 'named android' equivalent."


You are talking about a 350 litre tank to make that statement anywhere near true I suppose Bob? You could easily kit out a good Android with 128G or more for under $500. I did.

Kevin S

I'm sure some android devices are made quite well, however, I have owned one that was well and truly below the Great Wall in quality (got it from Kogan). As for being a yuppie toy, I should point out that my original 3.5 year old iPad isn't a toy, and I'm no yuppie. I bet there aren't too many 3.5 year old android tablets still working - oh, thats right, they didn't exist then because there was nothing to copy!

Boobook
I kitted out a good Android for $280 plus cost of Ozi. Sadly, it up and died.

Bob

as a navigation device if your comparing apples with apples a galaxy note 10.1 is a far better proposition to an Ipad for less money

with a samsung its as simple as downloading ozi for android and putting your maps on the SD card

neither of which you can do with an Ipad.

the build quality of the note 10.1 will easily stand alongside an ipad for much less $$

I agree with 'get outmore'.

We have both iPad and Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and find the Galaxy to be much easier to operate and marginally better in build quality.

We run our navigation with Oziexplorer for Android on the Galaxy and find it much better than our old Hema HN5i both in operation and build quality. (Sorry Stephen) Plus it is cheaper and more versatile.

"galaxy note 10.1 is a far better proposition to an Ipad for less money" although not according to the reviews I have read. Typical of which is:

Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 version)

"Once again, Samsung delivers a product that is rather on the pricey side: The tablet will drop for $US549.99 for a 16 GB version and $US599.99 for a 32GB versions (Apple’s Retina display 16 GB iPads start at $US499). It will come in two different colour options: Jet Black and Classic White. (What, no gold?)"

"The Samsung Galaxy is a great tablet in terms of display and multitasking, but still not quite proving the worth of its high price point. Since we’re expecting that Apple will most likely announce its new iPads in a few weeks, it just doesn’t make sense to buy the Galaxy 10.1 tablet now. You’re better off waiting to see if the iPad can deliver anything that’s better and cheaper."

Unfortunately, there is no iOS version of OziExplorer (yet), however, there are other mapping apps. I have had no trouble whatsoever using my existing map collection with the iPad (Hema maps, West Print maps, NSW and VIC 1:100,000 series and so on. Its as easy to load maps into the iPad as it is into the Nexus 7.

Bob

Thats old info and from the us. Galaxy notes have since actually bern around for a while and proven them self against the new ipad.
And they are cheaper especially considering the ipad has no external storage capability so you need the top of the line 64gig to compete with the entry level 16gig with additional 64gig samsung

Beat me to it getoutmore......

Also Comparing the price of a fully featured Note 10 to an apple without the pen capabilities is not correct. Try the Samsung Tab 3 to apple pricing which are equivelent, and oh in Australian pricing where the Istuff is marked up.

Which also leads me to the mark up on apps, videos and music you would need to consider.

Ok just had a look on kogan and an ipad is nearly $150 more thsn the samsung. But thats for the 16gig which really is too small to be usefull for most people (my maps alone are about 12gig)

"As for the 2014 edition Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, the tablet is definitely better-looking than its predecessor. However, it is still no match for the iPad 4, not when it comes to design."

"Ultimately, the 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 stands out with being lighter, thinner, and loaded with an S Pen. However, it lacks the visual appeal and quality of construction that places the iPad among the top tablets out there."

Istuff marked up? If you don't like the GST buy direct from States! (Hey, if you repeat the lie often enough it might come true)

S Pen. How useful!

GOM, yes, about six days out of date, and from and Australian newspaper.

I seem to have ruffled the phandroids' feathers!

Bob

Get em Bob!

Those internet opinions hold a real lot of weight and support your arguments no end.

You've convinced me. I've been ignoring 'visual appeal' in my decisions. Fancy putting value, cheaper apps, music, videos and ability to expand memory cheaply ahead of that! Spending an extra $100 for 16GB of memory suddenly seems insignificant compared to the added visual appeal I'll have in my hands in the middle of a desert.

You put up a good argument Bob.

ok heres the facts on pricing - Im using Kogan as its probablly about the cheapest you will get these products from an australian supplier

Samsung galaxy note 10.1 16gig3g - $529 AUD

Apple Ipad 4 16gig 4g $659

so yes thats a $130 difference

however thats not comparing apples with apples

16 gig is not enough for the typical user as you would have music, movies and maps

so you would add a $60 64gig card to the samsung

bringing its price to $589 giving you 78 gig of storage

the closest you can get with the Ipad
is the 64gig version for $869

making the difference $280

GOM

Your comparison is somewhat contrived.

How about comparing the price of current Galaxy note with the current Ipad 4, and compare the 64 GB models of each? Otherwise compare the superceded iPad 2 64GB with the similarly equipped superceded Note.

BTW my 16GB iPad 1 manages my mapping requirements (as mentioned above) more than adequately.

You clearly have a personal preference for a particular type of tablet. The fact that someone else chooses something else shouldn't be taken as a personal affront to you. You don't need to justify your choice. But if you do, try to present the facts, and not exaggerations and distortions.

Bob

Thats exactly what I did.
I compared the current galaxy note to the current ipad 4

Theres no need to compare both 64gig
Model thats one of the disadvantages of the ipad. It cant take sd cards
As for you saying the 16gig is fine for you. It would seem you are working within the un modafiable constraints apple imposes out of necessity.
I just had a look and I have 20gig of maps as well as another 20gig if other stuff such as all of season 3game of thrones and 13gig of music
Cant do that with a 16gig ipad but you can with a 16gig samsung
So yes the comparisons valid

GOM

When I go bush its not to watch re-runs of TV shows.

Still, whatever turns you on I suppose.

Bob

Echucan Bob posted:
"GOM
When I go bush its not to watch re-runs of TV shows."

Well with only 16G of Ipad, you couldn't of course.

I don't watch any reruns, but I do have about 46G of maps, another 30G of music, and 20 - 30G of photos and movies on my tablet that I have taken when travelling. It's great to have that choice.

I also have a 64G SD card in my movie camera and 32G in my SLR, I just slot them in my Asus when I want to look at what I have recently taken in a large format. Love it.

So out of all that all you got was amongst other things including 20gig of maps ive got a tv series which ive been watching on the 3hour plane flight for work.
The piont was for alot less money its alot more flexible.

Turn it down to less than 50%.
I have the 10.1 Samsung and have programmed brightness buttons into one of my screens on Ozi. I just keep tapping the increase or decrease brightness buttons to suit.

Or just use the main Android brightness slider, accessible by a single click what ever program you are using at the time.

For those who would like to use my screens in 10.1 here is the file I created (for landscape use). It is evolving so although it works OK technically it may not be graphically perfect.

Maybe I should charge for this as I did spend some time creating it, however if you like it I'll be happy with a coke whenever I pass your place.

It may work with screens other than 10.1 I don't know.

I could only get the file to upload to Exploroz on this thread by changing the file extension from .pa1 to txt. Therefore when you download the file change the extension back to .pa1

To import into Ozi go to main menu, operation, general menu then Load Page File(landscape) from wherever you have the file stored. You can revert back to the normal screen if you don't like it.



Full instructions are available by sending $25 with a self stamped envelope to......lol

Hey Alan.

That's very timely. I have only just re-started my aborted effort to understand Ozi CE and Android screen designer programs after your post months ago - ThreadID: 102410 - travelling season got in the way.

The software looks very promising, altho as you say, is a bit time intensive.

Cheers.

Hi JB,

It does take a bit of fiddling around, but worth it - the original screens just have too much info - like looking at a sign that is always there, you don't read it anymore.

I will probably wait until the software gets a few more updates, or goes Alpha before I fiddle with it anymore.

Cheers
Alan

WBS, I have just purchased a Galaxy Note 10.1, did look at getting a Windows Surface as I liked the idea of running Windows 8 and the windows version of Ozi. The problem is that the Surface does not have a built in GPS so you would have to run an external one, also be aware that the Surface comes with either Windows RT or 8. RT is a cut down version of 8 and not many programs are available for it.

What brand of SD cards are you running? I will only use Sandisk due to havng trouble with other brands, never had a Sandisk fail.

Chris

I've been a very interested but restrained observer of this thread, as one who made the shift from laptop and touch screen (and the myriad of wires between them, the GPS, power sources etc) to iPad a number of years ago, and has cursed the iPad ever since for its lack of utility for anything other than on Apple's narrow and idiosyncratic terms, and for its inability to run OziExplorer. I certainly don't blame Des Newman for refusing to dance to Apple's tune.

For what it's worth, I think you've come to the best conclusion.