Stand alone GPS touch screen for oziexplorer maps

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Hi Folks, Have decided to dispense with laptop under seat using touch screen on dash for gps mapping. Looking at various ideas including android tablets on dash. Very confused whats on the market that is suitable also they seem to have these"micro" usb ports. I didn't want to go to the Hema 7'' if possible, being used to the 8" touch sceeen the hema seems to be a bit small and showing less map to what I am used to. look forward to comments and ideas. Cheers, The Nugget.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 15:32

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 15:32
Hi Nugget

Go the Hema and you will not be disappointed at all. It has all the same features that you are used to, and when you get home, connect the Hema up to your laptop and you can downloads all your track files for your records.

It is also the same when you want to add more detailed maps, copy the maps that you want to used from your computer into the map folder on the micro SD Card and you then have new maps ready to go, as simple as that.



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Follow Up By: get outmore - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:31

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:31
but a very expensive way of achieving that

the same thing can be achieved for around $100 getting a 7 inch navigatot off of ebay
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 18:42

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 18:42
Hi get out more

Are you sure that you can get a $100 7" off of ebay, preloaded with OziEzplorer and all the full set of Hema Maps???...I would think not.


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Follow Up By: get outmore - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 19:45

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 19:45
sorry for some reason I thought he had the maps,

well in that case do make your own hema navigator with purchased maps would cost around $300 or about $350 if you got one with a reversing camera

compared to the cost of a Hema navigator for around $650 with a smaller screen

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Follow Up By: lizard - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 21:57

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 21:57
Stephen said : Hi get out more

Are you sure that you can get a $100 7" off of ebay, preloaded with OziEzplorer and all the full set of Hema Maps???...I would think not.


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Yes you can
We all did . Don't ask me how , I don't know , but a dozen or so of us did - works a treat .
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:50

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:50
Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) posted:
Hi get out more

Are you sure that you can *LEGALLY* get a $100 7" off of ebay, preloaded with OziEzplorer and all the full set of Hema Maps???...I would think not.

Fixed Stephen......
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 20:16

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 20:16
Yep I've got one and got one for 2 of my mates. We all had our own maps and Ozi so just loaded it onto the E Bay Chinese knock off. Cost less than $80 delivered for the GPS and it's a little ripper.

Still run my laptop as well and hope to get an Android set-up in the not too distant future though.

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:18

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:18
Like you, I've done away with the laptop. I've got 2 tablets - a 10.1" Asus and a 7" Nexus both with Oziexplorer and I experiment with both. Ozi for Android is a bit different to the windows version but differences are mostly positive once you get familiar with it.

The 7" Nexus has the microUSB which is good as its the same connector as my Samsung phone, Satphone and GPS! Works off any USB socket. It has a great screen that works OK in daylight. Mine also takes a 3G SIM card if you want to put a $180 NextG 12Gig data with 12 months expiry on it. It naturally does most other functions such as internet and email and you can put it in your pocket (big pocket!) or bag when out of the car. So it serves a few more purposes.

While I prefer the 10" size (because I have the space to mount it), on most vehicles the 7" is a better option and could go on the windscreen.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 20:08

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 20:08
I have the 7" Nexus with Ozi and its excellent! After a HP HX4700 its a HUGE screen, and that said it fits on the dash and doesnt stop much forward vision at all. I have found its very hungry for elkectricity when running full time, so have a 1.5m lead which connects to a 12v outlet. for me its perfect.

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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:19

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:19
It it was me, I would get an 8 or 10 inch Android tablet. Samsung tab 3 or better still the Asus 10 inch TF 300.

I assume you are running Oziexplorer or possibly Memory Map on the laptop. Either way you can get both apps on Android so you can reuse all your maps waypoints, tracks etc on the android.

Both will take a 64GB micro SD card giving you a minimum of 72G or 96G and up to several hundred G on the Asus.

You can also use it for photos, movies, weather etc etc etc.

Both the above tablets are high brightness. It doesn't really matter what brand you get but things to watch for are
-Make sure it is a main brand to help with mounts etc.
-Make sure it has a GPS :-)
-Wifi only is ok and can connect to the internet through a smart phone personal hotspot.

for $400 is plus the maps you already have you have an A1 GPS system.

Witht he Micro USB slots you can easily adapt them to normal USB with a $3.00 cable from ebay.
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Follow Up By: Member - nick b - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 21:24

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 21:24
I would agree with Boobook here , I have a asus TF 300 android transformer wifi only 10 inch screen , it has standard USB ,SD card slots 2 batteries .
it has a true GPS built in that receives better on the seat than my proper gps does on the dash . Note ...plastic case tablet not metal !!
But asus need 15 volt to charge a bit of a problem in a car .
The more i use it the better i like it & has so many usages .
Hema IMO are over priced .


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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 05:22

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 05:22
Nick, agree about the charging. Actually it is 12V. Had me stumped for a while....You can buy a 12V car charger on ebay for about $10 that fixes the problem.
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Follow Up By: Member - nick b - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:22

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:22
Boobook : can you give any more info on this charger ?
I'v been told that there 15volt , my tablet wont charge in the car on 12v to 13 volts even with a 2.3 ma usb .

I was going to get small inverter to do the re charge .

I'm using twonav on my tablet for navigation & log trip etc , works very good .
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:53

Sunday, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:53
Sorry for the delay, I didn't see your follow up.

I bought one of these. Works a treat and charges the Asus at about the same rate as the 240V charger.

Ebay 12v car charger

That is the exact one I got. I think I will get another, it works perfect but it has been yanked around a bit by the kids. For $9 delivered I would like a spare.
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Follow Up By: Member - nick b - Sunday, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:07

Sunday, Oct 13, 2013 at 12:07
Thanks a lot for the heads up Boobook , had a look myself few days ago
they range from your type chines under $ 10 to more than $ 40 from us etc ..... for that price buy a few of them for spares
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:27

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:27
TN
I have been using the Hema app on the original iPad and it suits me very well. I also have OziExplorer on the Nexus 7. It also works well but I prefer viewing the larger screen of the iPad.

There are quality issues with the Nexus 7. Mine died after a year of very light use. I did some research and found that they have been dying in their droves. Cheap enough to replace but not something you want half way through a trip. I only used it for mapping, so did not have to contend with the clunky operating system or all the malware.

In terms of cost:

Nexus 7 about $280
iPad mini from $509
iPad2 from $569
iPad 'retina' with 128GB $1009

So an iPad 2 with Hema app is about the same price as the Hema Navigator. I know what I'd get.

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Follow Up By: Member - johnat - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:52

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:52
Advantage of either the Android pad or the iPad (if you've money to burn) is that they are useful for stuff OTHER than just navigating.
The HN is a single purpose item, so can't be used to surf the net, or play mahjong, to while away the hours when out and about.
We bought an Android 7inch pad, loaded ozi explorer, Hema maps, a free nav app for around towns, and some games for when there's no TV worth watching. I've also just got a "reader" type app so I can download some pdf books and read them at night.
Try that on the Hema Nav!
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 08:24

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 08:24
johnat

Money to burn? At the prices I've listed there is less than the cost a tank of fuel between the top of the line iPad and the cheapest 'named android' equivalent. Some people don't buy the cheapest car, the cheapest tyres, the cheapest off road accessories. Purchasing decisions are generally a compromise between cost, quality and other variables. You'd hardly accuse every Toyota driver of having 'money to burn' because they chose a Toyota ahead of a Great Wall!

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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 10:57

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 10:57
Steady on Bob. An Android device is hardly the equivalent of a Great Wall 4x4. It is an alternative technology that works very well. Apple products have always been over priced. They get away with it because they promote them as yuppie toys.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:56

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:56
Echucan Bob posted:
"johnat

Money to burn? At the prices I've listed there is less than the cost a tank of fuel between the top of the line iPad and the cheapest 'named android' equivalent."


You are talking about a 350 litre tank to make that statement anywhere near true I suppose Bob? You could easily kit out a good Android with 128G or more for under $500. I did.
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 13:42

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 13:42
Kevin S

I'm sure some android devices are made quite well, however, I have owned one that was well and truly below the Great Wall in quality (got it from Kogan). As for being a yuppie toy, I should point out that my original 3.5 year old iPad isn't a toy, and I'm no yuppie. I bet there aren't too many 3.5 year old android tablets still working - oh, thats right, they didn't exist then because there was nothing to copy!

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 14:15

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 14:15
as a navigation device if your comparing apples with apples a galaxy note 10.1 is a far better proposition to an Ipad for less money

with a samsung its as simple as downloading ozi for android and putting your maps on the SD card

neither of which you can do with an Ipad.

the build quality of the note 10.1 will easily stand alongside an ipad for much less $$
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 14:33

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 14:33
I agree with 'get outmore'.

We have both iPad and Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and find the Galaxy to be much easier to operate and marginally better in build quality.

We run our navigation with Oziexplorer for Android on the Galaxy and find it much better than our old Hema HN5i both in operation and build quality. (Sorry Stephen) Plus it is cheaper and more versatile.
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 15:07

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 15:07
"galaxy note 10.1 is a far better proposition to an Ipad for less money" although not according to the reviews I have read. Typical of which is:

Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 version)

"Once again, Samsung delivers a product that is rather on the pricey side: The tablet will drop for $US549.99 for a 16 GB version and $US599.99 for a 32GB versions (Apple’s Retina display 16 GB iPads start at $US499). It will come in two different colour options: Jet Black and Classic White. (What, no gold?)"

"The Samsung Galaxy is a great tablet in terms of display and multitasking, but still not quite proving the worth of its high price point. Since we’re expecting that Apple will most likely announce its new iPads in a few weeks, it just doesn’t make sense to buy the Galaxy 10.1 tablet now. You’re better off waiting to see if the iPad can deliver anything that’s better and cheaper."

Unfortunately, there is no iOS version of OziExplorer (yet), however, there are other mapping apps. I have had no trouble whatsoever using my existing map collection with the iPad (Hema maps, West Print maps, NSW and VIC 1:100,000 series and so on. Its as easy to load maps into the iPad as it is into the Nexus 7.

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:04

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:04
Thats old info and from the us. Galaxy notes have since actually bern around for a while and proven them self against the new ipad.
And they are cheaper especially considering the ipad has no external storage capability so you need the top of the line 64gig to compete with the entry level 16gig with additional 64gig samsung
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:07

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:07
Beat me to it getoutmore......

Also Comparing the price of a fully featured Note 10 to an apple without the pen capabilities is not correct. Try the Samsung Tab 3 to apple pricing which are equivelent, and oh in Australian pricing where the Istuff is marked up.

Which also leads me to the mark up on apps, videos and music you would need to consider.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:09

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:09
Ok just had a look on kogan and an ipad is nearly $150 more thsn the samsung. But thats for the 16gig which really is too small to be usefull for most people (my maps alone are about 12gig)
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Tuesday, Oct 08, 2013 at 21:33

Tuesday, Oct 08, 2013 at 21:33
"As for the 2014 edition Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, the tablet is definitely better-looking than its predecessor. However, it is still no match for the iPad 4, not when it comes to design."

"Ultimately, the 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 stands out with being lighter, thinner, and loaded with an S Pen. However, it lacks the visual appeal and quality of construction that places the iPad among the top tablets out there."

Istuff marked up? If you don't like the GST buy direct from States! (Hey, if you repeat the lie often enough it might come true)

S Pen. How useful!

GOM, yes, about six days out of date, and from and Australian newspaper.

I seem to have ruffled the phandroids' feathers!

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:22

Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:22
Get em Bob!

Those internet opinions hold a real lot of weight and support your arguments no end.

You've convinced me. I've been ignoring 'visual appeal' in my decisions. Fancy putting value, cheaper apps, music, videos and ability to expand memory cheaply ahead of that! Spending an extra $100 for 16GB of memory suddenly seems insignificant compared to the added visual appeal I'll have in my hands in the middle of a desert.

You put up a good argument Bob.

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:09

Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:09
ok heres the facts on pricing - Im using Kogan as its probablly about the cheapest you will get these products from an australian supplier

Samsung galaxy note 10.1 16gig3g - $529 AUD

Apple Ipad 4 16gig 4g $659

so yes thats a $130 difference

however thats not comparing apples with apples

16 gig is not enough for the typical user as you would have music, movies and maps

so you would add a $60 64gig card to the samsung

bringing its price to $589 giving you 78 gig of storage

the closest you can get with the Ipad
is the 64gig version for $869

making the difference $280





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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:26

Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:26
GOM

Your comparison is somewhat contrived.

How about comparing the price of current Galaxy note with the current Ipad 4, and compare the 64 GB models of each? Otherwise compare the superceded iPad 2 64GB with the similarly equipped superceded Note.

BTW my 16GB iPad 1 manages my mapping requirements (as mentioned above) more than adequately.

You clearly have a personal preference for a particular type of tablet. The fact that someone else chooses something else shouldn't be taken as a personal affront to you. You don't need to justify your choice. But if you do, try to present the facts, and not exaggerations and distortions.

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Follow Up By: get outmore - Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 16:06

Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 16:06
Thats exactly what I did.
I compared the current galaxy note to the current ipad 4

Theres no need to compare both 64gig
Model thats one of the disadvantages of the ipad. It cant take sd cards
As for you saying the 16gig is fine for you. It would seem you are working within the un modafiable constraints apple imposes out of necessity.
I just had a look and I have 20gig of maps as well as another 20gig if other stuff such as all of season 3game of thrones and 13gig of music
Cant do that with a 16gig ipad but you can with a 16gig samsung
So yes the comparisons valid
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Thursday, Oct 10, 2013 at 07:32

Thursday, Oct 10, 2013 at 07:32
GOM

When I go bush its not to watch re-runs of TV shows.

Still, whatever turns you on I suppose.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Oct 10, 2013 at 07:52

Thursday, Oct 10, 2013 at 07:52
Echucan Bob posted:
"GOM
When I go bush its not to watch re-runs of TV shows."

Well with only 16G of Ipad, you couldn't of course.

I don't watch any reruns, but I do have about 46G of maps, another 30G of music, and 20 - 30G of photos and movies on my tablet that I have taken when travelling. It's great to have that choice.

I also have a 64G SD card in my movie camera and 32G in my SLR, I just slot them in my Asus when I want to look at what I have recently taken in a large format. Love it.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Thursday, Oct 10, 2013 at 09:34

Thursday, Oct 10, 2013 at 09:34
So out of all that all you got was amongst other things including 20gig of maps ive got a tv series which ive been watching on the 3hour plane flight for work.
The piont was for alot less money its alot more flexible.
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Reply By: jchatty - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:41

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 16:41
Hi Nugget
I use an Acer Iconia A500 with Oziexplorer Android loaded and it works well.
I am not endorsing any brand of tablet, but this does have a mini memory card slot and two USB ports which are great for loading files or just plugging in external memory.
It has a built in GPS which works well and is good for "Google Earth" as it will pinpoint your location.
I preload (cache) Google Earth of my intended route before I leave home and I am able to track my movements without the internet.

Note, I have made a sun shield to better view the screen as it is hard to see in sun.

Hope this helps
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Reply By: bgreeni - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 17:40

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 17:40
I have Ozi on both a Samsung Tab 7.7 and now on a Samsung Note 2. I have windscreen mounts for both.

I find I use the note 2 more often than the larger 7.7. It shows all I need and is very readable.

The only problem I find is at night with no night option in Ozi for Android. Turning down the brightness to 50% is still to bright. This is less of a problem with the smaller screen.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 18:02

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 18:02
Turn it down to less than 50%.
I have the 10.1 Samsung and have programmed brightness buttons into one of my screens on Ozi. I just keep tapping the increase or decrease brightness buttons to suit.

Or just use the main Android brightness slider, accessible by a single click what ever program you are using at the time.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 18:22

Sunday, Oct 06, 2013 at 18:22
For those who would like to use my screens in 10.1 here is the file I created (for landscape use). It is evolving so although it works OK technically it may not be graphically perfect.

Maybe I should charge for this as I did spend some time creating it, however if you like it I'll be happy with a coke whenever I pass your place.

It may work with screens other than 10.1 I don't know.

I could only get the file to upload to Exploroz on this thread by changing the file extension from .pa1 to txt. Therefore when you download the file change the extension back to .pa1

To import into Ozi go to main menu, operation, general menu then Load Page File(landscape) from wherever you have the file stored. You can revert back to the normal screen if you don't like it.



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Follow Up By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:54

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 21:54
Hey Alan.

That's very timely. I have only just re-started my aborted effort to understand Ozi CE and Android screen designer programs after your post months ago - ThreadID: 102410 - travelling season got in the way.

The software looks very promising, altho as you say, is a bit time intensive.

Cheers.

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Follow Up By: equinox - Tuesday, Oct 08, 2013 at 22:44

Tuesday, Oct 08, 2013 at 22:44
Hi JB,

It does take a bit of fiddling around, but worth it - the original screens just have too much info - like looking at a sign that is always there, you don't read it anymore.

I will probably wait until the software gets a few more updates, or goes Alpha before I fiddle with it anymore.

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Reply By: Michaeljp - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:49

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:49
I use MudMap M7. 7" screen, runs ozi and a heap of other maps come with it. It has a micro sd slot so you can add your own maps. $499.
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Reply By: WBS - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 18:09

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 18:09
At the moment I am using a 7" GPS that runs the Windows CE operating system. Its a cheap Chinese unit that has not missed a beat in the 4 years I've owned it. I've been waiting for it to die so I can buy a 7" Tablet but it refuses to give up the ghost. Not sure of a particular brand of tablet I prefer yet but as the old GPS works just fine it might be a while.

Has anyone tried the Microsoft Surface yet? Looks to a be an interesting unit

I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1" with Ozi on it. It works very well and the Ozi for Android works just fine, but in my opinion, a 10" tablet is just too big to mount on the dash for my liking.

By the way, I've had to replace 2x 32 GB Micro SD cards so far in less than a year. I'm on to my third. Anyone else experienced this problem?
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Follow Up By: Chris (Qld) - Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:24

Wednesday, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:24
WBS, I have just purchased a Galaxy Note 10.1, did look at getting a Windows Surface as I liked the idea of running Windows 8 and the windows version of Ozi. The problem is that the Surface does not have a built in GPS so you would have to run an external one, also be aware that the Surface comes with either Windows RT or 8. RT is a cut down version of 8 and not many programs are available for it.

What brand of SD cards are you running? I will only use Sandisk due to havng trouble with other brands, never had a Sandisk fail.

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Reply By: krimnl - Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 20:41

Monday, Oct 07, 2013 at 20:41
I use a samsung 7.7 tablet with ozi explorer in my Patrol , its mounted using a ram mount and the size is perfect for the job. I can also adjust it above the dash and use the video camera function through the windscreen.
The tablet is easy to use , GPS works great , has voice control for navigation

I also connect it via wifi to my phone and use it for street nav when in towns , emails , facebook , banking , weather etc.

ive never used the HN , but when i was deciding what to buy the fact that the tablet could be used for more than just navigation was a deciding factor for me. And andriod was my preferred OS as i have ozi explorer on laptop, if you can use the windows version of Ozi you will easily get the hang of the andriod version.








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Reply By: Member - graeme W (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 08, 2013 at 06:58

Tuesday, Oct 08, 2013 at 06:58
Hi Nugget.
One thing ive noticed with the samsung is that it must have a very good gps because ive got 2 magellons and another in the boat and the only one that works inside the house is the samsung (10.1).This is very handy when travelling under the big trees down south etc and give a much more accurate position.There are much better maps than hema though,have a look at Greg Harewoods on this site. Android ozi works well and is easy to operate and for 25 dollars is good value.
cheers Graeme.
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Reply By: the nugget - Friday, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:58

Friday, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:58
I would like to thank, Stephen L (SA); Get Outmore; Lizard; Boobook; Duncan WA; Phil G (SA); Bonz (VIC); Nick B; Echucan Bob; Johnat; and Kevin S (QLD); Thanks Guys for your input very much appreciated. I think the Galaxy 10 sounds an Ideal unit as it is also versatile outside the vehicle. Preference over the Ipad as the G has usb and SD card functionality. Due to higher temps up north my remote area travelling is finished and next year I will be spruiking the G10 on my dash I apologise if I have missed others that replied to my post. Warm regards The Nugget.

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Follow Up By: Member - Paul B (WA) - Friday, Oct 11, 2013 at 16:51

Friday, Oct 11, 2013 at 16:51
I've been a very interested but restrained observer of this thread, as one who made the shift from laptop and touch screen (and the myriad of wires between them, the GPS, power sources etc) to iPad a number of years ago, and has cursed the iPad ever since for its lack of utility for anything other than on Apple's narrow and idiosyncratic terms, and for its inability to run OziExplorer. I certainly don't blame Des Newman for refusing to dance to Apple's tune.

For what it's worth, I think you've come to the best conclusion.
Paul B Kalgoorlie

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