Did you know - fined more than $300 - parked next to yellow line

Sorry - forgot to note that the relevant section in the last link is Section 142.

Yeh ya got that right.

Remember the best thing about victoria is the road heading north.

The second best thing about victoria is the road heading west.

cheers

I don't know of any parking offences where you can lose points. You only lose demerit points when you're actually driving or "in charge" of a vehicle.
In some states, being "in charge" of a motor vehicle merely means you only have to sit in the drivers seat with the engine running.

I'm not sure if you got confused with the major difference between a "Penalty Unit" (PU), and a demerit point.

One PU is a statutory amount for a fine under any relevant legislation.

Demerit points are allocated to you for specific offences, and after incurring 12 DP's within 3 yrs you automatically lose your licence.

Cheers, Ron.

Thanks Phil I wasn't aware of it. We're conditioned to red paint and signs for no-goes as you say.

The motor traffic regulations have not had money values for fines for particular offences for some years now. All offences have a number of penalty units assigned to them. That makes it easier to index the penalties each year, they don't have to amend the regulations each time they wish to increase the fines.

Nomadic Navara - Then how do you explain the NSW cost of $286 for a standard "no-stopping-on-the-yellow-line" infringement, and $304 for a NSOTYL infringement near a school? - when the legislation says 20 Penalty Units? - with 1 PU currently being $110?

As I understand it, there's a whole list of on-the-spot "infringement" fines in NSW - and probably other states as well - that do not relate to the PU's in the legislation. As I read it, the stated PU's in the relevant legislation refer to maximum fines allowed by the courts.

In W.A. the $50 penalty unit appears to be applied to fines, as per the legislation PU's. For example, the fine for speeding by up to 9kmh in W.A. is 1.5 PU's and the fine is actually $75.

Well that shows that to keep up to date one must be booked more often. A PU Is that pronounced a PEEUUU. As in bad smell? This is another first.

Phil

I have always known it to be no parking since I learnt to drive...... there are so many road rules that we the drive are meant to know but it's funny how a court has to make the decision in many of these rules.

Some in power say that if you don't know all the rules you should not be driving....yeah right!

Olcoolone - W.A. was probably the last state to use yellow lines for parking, and it was only introduced across the state here, in the last few years. Can't recall the exact date, but it was only about 5 yrs ago.

Prior to that, signage was the only indication. The authorities in W.A. went on a big advertising binge to notify people about the introduction of yellow lines.

I can remember when I lived in Sydney in 1970 for a short period, being surprised at the use of yellow lines.

I don't think we'll ever know the full extent of every rule and regulation involved in driving - but it would help if the authorities made all the information available in one comprehensive booklet or online file.
As it is, one has to try and find the relevant legislation for the rules - and the penalties are often in a different Act or Statute from the Road Rules Act or Statutes.

The driving on high-beam is interesting, how many vehicles have you seen driving on one headlight on high beam because the other headlight has blown, I reported to Taree police, 14 vehicles whilst coming home and asked them to do something.

"Oh, we don't have the resources, they said. Whats so hard in sitting on side of road pulling in those driving on one head light.

Not enough money in it, OW - catching speeders is easier. I'd like to see penalties for badly adjusted lights ramped up, and more checks done.
In France, the fine for badly adjusted lights is around $800.
Even the penalty for driving around without lights on is pathetic.
I nearly collected a bloke in my driver doors one night, when I pulled out from a T-junction, and this totally-unlit car appeared not 50M away!!
He suddenly switched on his lights when about 20M away, and frightened most of my previous meal out of me. Talk about a "brown corduroy trousers" moment.
I don't need to share the road with dangerous imbeciles who don't make a firm habit of switching their lights on, as soon as they get into the drivers seat and fire up.

Was it daylight? If so then get your eyes tested Ron.

Please lets not get into a "not again" revenue raising and lights on all the time discussion. Please NOT.

Phil

Ron,

from your link:

Are you annoyed by drivers who use foglights in clear conditions – or in daylight? In NSW it’s a $99 ticket and in Victoria it’ll cost you $141 to use a foglight “unless in fog or other hazardous weather reducing visbility”.

Where I live, it seems you must have your foglights on all the time as part of some display ritual (look at me, I'm a tosser and I have a car with foglights!). I'd say the coppers aren't booking them, going by the numbers.



Reversing a vehicle “further than is reasonable” is a $141 fine in Victoria – and reversing along a one-way street is a ticket in both states ($232 and two demerit points in NSW), because you’re still travelling the wrong direction even if the car is pointing the right way.

The cynic in me says there are whalloppers who'd book someone backing into a parking spot in a one way street if they had it in for them.

Bob

Phil - It certainly wasn't daylight when I nearly collected the bloke with no lights on - it was in a relatively-poorly-lit part of the city, adjoining Hyde Park - and it was 10:00PM!
There's an old shop building right on the corner that prevents you from seeing very far up the road to your right. I most certainly looked to my right, and pulled out carefully, and I was nearly in the middle of the T-junction when I suddenly spotted him - and he was doing 60kmh with no lights on!!


Bob, I certainly am annoyed by people who have their fog lights, whether it's day or night. They're blinding.
I'm also pretty sure that most of those people have no idea how blinding their fog lights are, whether it's day or night.

Fortunately, W.A. police are right down on fog-light users when there's no fog about - and make a point of booking people using them when it's not necessary. I've noticed a big decline in the number of people using them unnecessarily in recent times.

I use headlights on low beam at all times, even in daylight, and it's a safety tactic recommended and approved by W.A. police.
With the number of grey, charcoal, and dark silver cars around nowadays, they can blend all too easily into the road.

I once had a smash-repair bloke bend my ear for 10 mins about how the majority of the cars he got in for smash repair, were those colours.

I missed a word "night" Oops my error

Mate It's not worth getting upset. Nothing is worth it. I don't like some things either, but that is the way things go. Even sitting behind slow cars. Ah well.

Catchya

Phil

Ron

Ah yes, the bitumen coloured car. Frankly, when overtaking you need to see about a kilometer down the road. Some cars are almost invisible due to blending in with the road. They might as well smear them with hotmix and call them stealth cars!

Bob

Well, there you go.

I am going to have to keep my eyes peeled as I have never seen a yellow line painted like they do in England. I would assume that I would know what it meant if I did see one.

bill

The yellow lines have meant no parking/stopping here (SA) for over 40 years.

I don't know if it is still the case but in the Uk, they used to run a TV campaign if new laws were brought in and would also run a campaign for issues that needed highlighting, like looking out for cyclists and blind spot issues. I don't know about other staates but NSW certainly don't do anything of the sort and it seems these rules are brought in by stealth. I wonder why?

In Victoria, they have factored in a $38 million increase in revenue from speed (safety cameras LOL) cameras for 2014 which they are installing in increasing numbers. If they were really concerned about road safety, they would publicise areas of concern and bring them to the public's notice through media.

Steve - You're spot-on on all points, and what you say is just plain commonsense.
However, as they say, common sense isn't so common any more, and certainly not in Govt Depts and Road Safety authorities.

no mate - they're more interested in ar$e covering and keeping the gravy train going. Public service is a long way down the list.